[JWahlsten]

Nice job, Flash, and Pete is only about 30 minutes from where I work. How convenient...I guess I'll change the hose, clutch master, slave and brake master at the same time. I just happen to have a brake master in my garage from the old racecar. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/cool.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> I really need to go see him anyway. Haven't had a chance to introduce myself yet.

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[SILVY968]

[quote name='flash' post='30689' date='Feb 7 2007, 09:14 AM']it's the nature of rubber and the interaction with hydraulic fluid and its interation with moisture



since all of the rubber parts are old, they all swell and bleed off pressure equally - old seals don't hold as much pressure as new ones - replacing one will then allow more pressure to go to the others, revealing any weaknesses - sounds weird, i know, but it happens way too frequently to be a fluke



in about 30 years of playing with this clutch hydraulic stuff, it has been my observation that about 1/3 of the cars that have changed only one component in the clutch hydraulics, rather than all of them, have had a failure almost immediately - that number went up to about 1/2 within a matter of months, and almost 3/4 over the first year



those staggering figures are enough evidence to me to say clearly that it is a very bad idea to cheap out and not buy the remaining 2 components, when the labor to get back in there is more than the parts themselves, let alone the tow home, and the mess to clean up from hydraulic fluid getting all over the place - that does not even get into the bar tab from all the kicking yourself you will do for not doing it right the first time



it takes very little more time to change out the master and slave, than to do just the hose itself, and the cost is very minimal - save yourself the headache[/quote]



Sounds like good advice. I'll contact Pete for all three. While the car is getting a new DMF and disc, I might as well change out the sytem of original parts. On a DD this kind of preventive stuff can save money and time. bob...Nice job, as usual. What is next out of the "flash chute", if I might coin a phrase?



Brian

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[333pg333]

Would this line fit a 951?

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[flash]

jay - hehe - you know there are projects nearing completion - film at 11



i have no idea if it fits a 951 - i do know that there are differences between our slave and the one for earlier 944s - that was found out when trying to fit the prototype, and the car being tested on had been worked on by someone else who changed out the slave and hard line to earlier stuff - the fittings were different

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[RS Barn]

I do believe it will fit a 951 but!

I will check out as I'm doing rod bearing on one soon.

Pete

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[333pg333]

Thanks Pete and Bob.

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[huskydog]

I'm sure everyone knows this but whis is Pete and how do I contact him?

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[94SilverCab]

Pete Fitzpatrick = RS Barn...see the link to your right



Regards,



Jay

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[flash]

my bad - sorry about that - good catch

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[Tom in Austin]

968s have a unique slave due to the DMF flywheel. Not sure on the master, it might interchange with eariler 944 parts.



BTW, if anyone wants to buy a 944 slave just to prove the above, I'll make you a great deal on one ;-)

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[flash]

lol - found that out already the hard way on the prototype test fit - somebody had stuck in an early 944 slave and hard line - definitely a no-go

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[Carl968]

Thanks to Flash and Pete for all of their efforts on this project. I just ordered mine.

Carl

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[ether_joe]

schweet! I've got it on my list. Thanks Flash and Pete. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[flash]

i was very happy to be able to work this out for everyone - it has been a thorn in too many people's sides, and it needed permanent correction



i was also happy to solidify an already great relationship with pete, and establish him as the sole distributor for it - he is much better able to be the retail source than i am - i prefer to stay in the design and manufacturer role, than to be in the sales or fulfillment role - he comes from that background, and coupled with his extensive knowledge and focus on the car, is uniquely suited to the role - i could not have chosen better - plus, it lets me move on to the next project - i plan to have him as my distribution point for most of the things i am working on - i think it wil work out very well for everyone



and yes, there is a next project about to be released - as soon as it is ready, i'll let everyone know

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[Renalicious]

Woot! Looks like I'm finally be able to get those hydraulics done! However, I noticed that there will be a light weight flywheel available from RS Barn as well, starting March 1st. I may have to wait a little bit longer and get everything as a bundle <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[SILVY968]

Just had my pm install the OEM DMF, new disk and braided clutch line and both ends of the hydraulics.

Pedal feels v e r y s m o o t h !

Now I do not have to worry about "pedal to the floor" plus the feel is firm by comparison.

Great two pronged attack; repair and better feel.

I recommend it to all. The failure is inevitable in cars that are becoming teenagers.

Thanks Flash!

Brian

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[Anchorman]

Brian, I'm about to have similar work done. I was debating whether the right approach is to replace the hydraulic lines and leave the functioning (but old) master and slave cylinders, or also to replace the cylinders. Do I gather that you did the lines but not the cylinders?

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[flash]

i believe he changed them both, as he said, "both ends of the hydraulics"



if your cylinders are anything but new, change them - i can't count the nubmer of people who have made the poor "buck saving" decision to change only the line, to then have one of the others fail almost immediately, causing the labor to be done all over again - the really aren't expensive, and most of the labor time is in the bleeding anyway - the whole job is only 2.5 hrs and the total parts cost is under 250

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[SILVY968]

[quote name='Anchorman' post='33133' date='Mar 24 2007, 04:41 AM']Brian, I'm about to have similar work done. I was debating whether the right approach is to replace the hydraulic lines and leave the functioning (but old) master and slave cylinders, or also to replace the cylinders. Do I gather that you did the lines but not the cylinders?[/quote]



Anchorman,



Flash is right. I changed both the slave and the master. He suggested that it would be wise to replace both of the cylinders at the same time. Jeff @ Sunset supplied both of the cylinders and my PM took 1.5 hours to do the complete R&R plus bleed.

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[Anchorman]

OK, guys, slave and master replacement it will be. And Pete (RSBarn) will provide the labor, along with the other stuff.

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