[ds968]

Today's mail brought a letter from the Bay Area Air Quality Management District which starts off as follows:

" Dear Vehicle Owner, the registration on your model year 1994 Porsche is expiring soon . Please consider an alternative to driving this vehicle. You can receive $ 1,000 for your 1994 or older car , van or pick up truck from the BAAQMD, and reduce air pollution" It then continues with a bunch of blah, blah, blah, yada, yada , yada , for another four or five paragraphs .and ends with " Sincerely, Vehicle Buy Back Prgram , BAAQMD." Oh, and they do highlight the fact that this is a " completely voluntary " program...so they're not seizing my car under some eminent domain law...YET ! Whew, what a relief. Although , I have two 1994 968s, so we're talking about $ 2,000 opportunity here.. I can buy a new pair of shoes and have enough left over for a decent dinner with that kind of money !

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[Bulti]

I guess they assume you put at least 30000 miles/year on each of them each year?

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[Rap]

Hey mister, how much for your daughter? Lol gotta love the government some folks have voted in!

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[94SilverCab]

I'll give you $2,100 (for both of course)...



Jay

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[rhudeboye]

LOL I assume the guy that owns the 20 year old Yugo gets the same offer as the guy that owns the Rolls.



Dan-

Doesn't turning 20 come with some perks? Like once a car is 20 years old you no longer have to do emissions testing as it's now an antique.

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[ds968]

[quote name='rhudeboye' timestamp='1395404647' post='156128']LOL I assume the guy that owns the 20 year old Yugo gets the same offer as the guy that owns the Rolls.

Dan-

Doesn't turning 20 come with some perks? Like once a car is 20 years old you no longer have to do emissions testing as it's now an antique.[/quote]



No idea what this state's threshold is for smog testing but I'm pretty sure it's considerably more than 20 years.

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[rhudeboye]

WOW, you're right. In MD it's 20 years. It's almost double that in CA.





Here's a quote from CAs MVA page



This is How to Register a Custom or Antique Vehicle in California

First of all, an antique car is not one that came out last year. An antique car is defined as a car that was originally manufactured at least 39 years ago



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[94SilverCab]

I have an exhaust emissions exemption based on a history of driving less than 5,000 miles/year. With this exemption I could burn wood to fuel my car (or, install a 440 cid).



Jay

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[lbpesq]

Good to know I can not only get $1000 for my '93 Cab, but I can get another grand for my '58 TR3A!



Bill

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[smshirk]

I have an 80 model 911 I've been trying to resurrect. Ga is about to go to 15% or more bio fuel. I don't think that old motor will run on it, Not for long anyway. Eventually they could make enough regulation changes for it to become very difficult to continue driving older cars. I already use fuel additives in the 911. It sits too much which just makes matters worse I know. The 968s aren't going to have that problem, but I can see some states requiring full compliance with 96 and beyond communications at some point. I suppose someone could upgrade the 968 software, but I doubt Porsche would do it. In GA you qualify for antique status at 25 years and older. We aren't required to take emissions tests once you reach that milestone. plus you get cute little antique plates. The state taxes that 80 911 at double the value of the 968, even though the actual values are probably about the same. I paid considerably less for the 911 than the 968, but that had more to do with condition than anything else.. Maybe they over value the antique status because you don't have to pass emissions, but I'm not sure of that. Every year when I pay the taxes on all my toys I get all worked up about it, then forget it once I pay the bill.



I know CA doesn't afford you the flexibility of changing originality of the exhaust or emissions systems. Or you have to stay stock, so you'd have to get back to the early 70s to not have emissions restrictions. I don't know how guys in CA keep those smog pumps working. The first attempt Porsche made at meeting the regs was not their best effort. I was able to 86 the entire exhaust system and put SSI heat exchangers on it, taking me to ROW HP, 204 VS 182. I've got a little miss though so I'm not seeing that 200 milestone yet I don't think. I've done everything I can do outside the engine, so most likely have a broken head stud, one of only 2 real issues with the 3.0. Sorry getting off topic.

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[ds968]

There are over 32 Million registered vehicles in Califorrnia ( about 24 Mil cars and the rest are trucks, pick ups, motorcycles ). And conversely, in SoCal there are probably also few million occupants per one car - barrrump pum - but I digress.. Some additional info also points to probably another 3 to 4 million cars being driven without regsitration and I'd bet those are by far the worst polluters of the bunch. So in one sense with the aggregate emissions of that many vehicles I can understand the nanny-State mentality when it comes to what most feel is way over the top smog control here, yet in another sense I resent the eco-nazi approach to receiving notices encouraging me to switch a 94 car in favor of some electric or hybrid piece of crap which likely causes more environmental damage in its batteries manufacturing process and eventual disposal need , than it saves by its lack of emissions..

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[az968]

Or you could move to Prescott where cars aren't smoged and you can do what you want......

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[Cloud9...68]

I have heard Prescott is very nice...

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[az968]

Having lived in both Prescott and Austin, I'd have to pick Austin. We lived there in the late 70's-early 80's and the music scene was fantastic. Hill Country roads (Devil's backbone!!). Believe they play some college football there too.

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[az968]

Oops, forgot to add that Austin also has some new race track where they drive noise-restricted European autos...

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[Cloud9...68]

Yeah, Austin is pretty good if you're into having a racetrack within about 30 miles of just about anywhere you live <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.png" class="smilie" alt="" />. I've heard Prescott has near-perfect weather, though, which you definitely can't say about Austin.

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