[Tomikaze]

Can anyone tell me if guards red has a clear coat on it or not?

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[flash]

it shouldn't

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[rhudeboye]

??

What? Is this to say some colors do and others don't? Had no idea.

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[flash]

it is my understanding that the solid colors have no clear coat

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[DaveN]

+1 on the lack of clear coat. At least on 911's anyway.

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[Fox944]

+2, i'm pretty sure Guards Red did not have a clear coat.

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[link517]

No clear coat. Heard it was water based paint?

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[aslet]

Solid colors have no clear coat. Matalic colors have a clear coat. Hence when you polish a Guards Red car the polishing pad turns red and when you polish a metalic car it only gets a white milky color on it (unless you polish through the clear).

I also am faily sure they did not use water based paint. Water based paints have been around for awhile, but not many people use them (especially a car company) since they are harder to work with and not really as good as normal automotive paint. Water based are a newer trends, since some states (Like CA) and making them manditory.

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[link517]

http://www.porsche.com/international/about...tory/paintshop/

"From 1992, Porsche embraced water-based paint technology. Since 1997 water-based filler has been in use."

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[rhudeboye]

You guys continue to impress and amaze me.

Good pull Link

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[chudson]

Very interesting subject. Every Porsche from 1988 to 2001 rolled through the pre delivery facility here in Charleston SC and I know several of the previous employees including some who were in the paint department. I'm going to get their reaction. It is certainly in print, but I would not have guessed water based in the mid 90s.

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[Tomikaze]

Looking at a Guards Red coupe for sale. You can do amazing things to non clearcoat paints to removes imperfections. Just gotta keep them out of the sun.

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[Monstrous4Banger]

Yeah, its tricky to get a single stage acrylic to last, compared to dual stage, but man, the finish is BEAUTIFUL.

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[Carl968]

Hey guys my '92 Guards Red coupe appears to have a clear coat. There is a small area above the drivers door where it appears to have lifted off. I could be wrong but that is theway it looks.

Carl

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[Monstrous4Banger]

Carl, not original paint? A lot of times, people have gotten them touched up over the years, and had them clear coated. My 944's had all been resprayed at some point. Especially here in AZ, single stage acrylics dont last in this sun, so most people go dual stage eventually. The clear coat makes it last a long time, but the finish isnt the same to a trained eye. My 968 is GP white, and its definitely single stage, its all original paint, always garaged AZ car, never even had a wheel to it....kinda needs it. Some day Ill get to that project.

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[hot968]

I know my 93 Midnight Blue Metalic paint has a clear coat, it is not the same look as regular paint. My clear coat is getting very scratched and I will have to have it painted pretty soon.

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[rxter]

I would have sworn that the black was cleared. Looking at some close up photos I don't see the orange peel that I so detest on my other car. I am going to take a closer look tomorrow (after I wash all the crap off). And I am going to feel a lot better about this paint job - no clear. Also need to make sure that there is a coat of wax on it....

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[Carl968]

I am the third owner of this vehicle so I cannot be sure of it's complete history. I was told by the previous owner (#2) that the car had original paint and never been in a accident. But it sure appears to be clear coat. Don't really have any record or know if it had been resprayed or clearcoated in it's previous life. The area where it is lifting or flaking off does not appear to be recent. I've owned it for 6 years.

Just my $.02. Cannot verify much else.

Carl

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[flash]

a lot of repair shops will clear coat a red car to prevent the eventual oxidization that ultimately brings a customer back complaining about his paint - it also helps prevent the color shift from the sun that happens with any paint, thereby helping to maintain the color match longer

i think one of the 2 whites our car came with might have had had clear (not grand prix, but the other one), but as far as i know, the other solids did not as standard - only the metallics

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[DaveN]

A good paint shop can always tell you as they have the ability to measure the thickness of the paint electronically; even some detailers have a thickness guage. There should be obvious limits to a single stage as opposed to the addition of a clear coat.

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