[Langley968]

I may be in the market for a different daily driver in about 6 months.



Have been thinking of a Cayenne... BUT it may not be a wise choice!



I have also spoken to several people that own a VW Tiguan and EVERY one has said: "Best vehicle I have ever owned!". Now that is some statement! The Tiguan is way smaller than the Cayenne, but it may be just what I need...



Just wondering if any 968 owner also owns a Cayenne?

If so, please share your thoughts.

Is anyone contemplating buying one someday?



Does anyone here own a VW Tiguan? Please share your thoughts...

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[tamathumper]

Darryl has said in the past that he loves his Cayenne. Just can't get used to the look of them myself.

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[968TDG]

My girlfriend had a Tiguan for 2 years and she eventually got rid of it. It was a FWD 2.0T. Plenty of power, nice handling for a higher vehicle. It's on the PQ35 platform which is the same as the Golf and the Audi A3.



I now have an Audi A3 3.2 quattro. I like this car more because of the styling and the capability of the quattro. It certainly handles flatter than the Tiguan, which is to be expected, but on the smile meter, they are both great to drive.



The Cayenne is certainly bigger, but I've never even been in one <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.png" class="smilie" alt="" />



Cheers

Phil

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[DaveN]

What's wrong with a discontinued SAAB Jake? <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.png" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Langley968]

Dave! Your still around!



Nothing wrong witht he SAAB. I just have the "car shopping" urge again. It has been a loooooooooooooong 2.5 years already!

The SAAB may go to one of my girls.

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[craigawoodman]

Not quite a Cayenne, but I have an Audi Q7 which is the same chassis and running gear as both the Cayenne and VW Toureg.



Mine is a 2011 3.0L V6 diesel. It is my second Q7 and as far as a large wagon goes, it is the best I have ever owned. I need a vehicle with seven seats and that can tow over 2.5 tonnes.



Excellent fuel economy (7.2 litres per 100km on a recent 3,000km trip from Brisbane to the snow and back), handles well, quiet, reliable, etc. I have "chipped" mine - now gets 230kW and 650Nm of torque. Goes hard, particularly in "sport" mode. Tows really well too. Used to have to use a stabilizer hitch on the Toyota Prado I had, no need on the Q7. 8 speed auto, stop start, etc.



Just don't get major repairs done at the dealer. Mine is still under warranty, done 62,000km. All brake pads need changing, along with front rotors, dealer quoted $3,400 to do this. Bought the parts for $500 (rotors, pads, sensors, genuine replacement bolts). Everything apart from the bolts are non OE, but WTF?



Also have a VW Amarok for work. Only had this now about 2 months. Like it, but nowhere as nice as the Q7. Fuel economy is not as good either. Amarok is the twin turbo diesel model - 8 speed auto.



We have now had 6 VW group cars (Jetta, Q7, A5 Cab, Q7, Amarok, A6) and have been happy with all of them. The Q7 is the only car I have ever bought a second one of. It is not a blind alliegence to the VW brand (we looked at a BMW 528i) but for price, features, reliability and performance, we have not been able to go past the Audi/VW range.



That said, HSV has just released a new GTS with the 6.2L supercharged V8 out of the Corvette that makes 430kW and 750Nm of torque that could make it into the garage (if I can convince my wife). I always wanted a car that would light up the rear wheels with a prod of your right foot.



Friend of mine has a Tuguan, diesel and gets over 1,000km to a tank of fuel. Has loved it.

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[Kim]

I had a Cayenne V6 from 2007-2012. Drove it 330,000 km. Loved it BUT it was very expensive to maintain. Haven't ever driven a Tiguan. Maybe you want to wait for the new smaller SUV (Macan)?

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[tamathumper]

Wow, 330,000 km in 5 years!?

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[Inkedupfatboy]

that is not too bad - only 205,052.493 miles...I have over 150,000 miles on my 07 Ridgeline.

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[craigawoodman]

What about the new Audi RSQ5? Are you looking new or used?

Sorry,



The first Q7 I owned I did over 100,000 in about 15 months. Relaxing on long drives.

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[tamathumper]

That's over 40,000 miles a year. Impressive!

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[cosimo]

Cayenne have very poor gas mileage. They are also very expensive to repair.

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[DaveN]

Ah but that was one of 3 (4?) vehicles Kim drives (drove) every year! He is the mileage king.

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[coloradocab]

We are on our second Cayenne (at Turbo S, after having owned an S). Absolutely love it...my wife won't accept any other vehicle now. And, it tows the race car like it's not even there. Its power and stability when towing is amazing.

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[craigawoodman]

Can you get the diesel Cayenne and Q7/Toureg in the USA/Canada? These are phenomenally economical, go like stink and are galvanised to boot. Rather than the very thirsty petrol versions, why not the diesel ones?

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[Kim]

diesel Cayenne is available in Canada. Diesel Toureg is avialable, but it is NOT the V10 torque monster that was available in 2004.



Re driving, I was driving about 120-130,000 km/yer spread out over 4 vehicles (Cayenne, Cayman S, 968 coupe and 968 cab), Had a lot of fun. Now I just have the Carrera 4S cab

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[blau]

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I had a Cayenne V6 from 2007-2012. Drove it 330,000 km. Loved it BUT it was very expensive to maintain. Haven't ever driven a Tiguan. Maybe you want to wait for the new smaller SUV (Macan)?

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After test driving the Q7, Q5, Cayenne, X5, GLK, and ML...my father ended up with the Q5.



The Q7 he felt like was more space than he needed (ML too). Didn't like how the X5 and GLK drove compared to the Cayenne and Q5.



The trunk space in the Cayenne is no bigger than the Q5 because of how steep the rear window slopes, but you do gain about 4 inches of leg room (I've never had a problem in the back seat of the Q5 though at 6'0").



The Macan looks like it's going to have the same issue - the rear hatch slopes so much that it's going to kill the utility of it. That's actually my biggest complaint about our 09 A4 Avant - rear hatch window slope.



The Tiguan is built up from the Golf. They're nice, but the 2.0T engine is lacking in power.



The Q5 is available with the 272hp 3.0T (Supercharged 3 liter, also in the S4 and A6). I would point you in that direction unless you need more space, and then would go with the Q7.

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[Darryl]

Yes, we love our Cayenne S. Wife is now using it as daily driver. Expensive when it breaks, but what Porsche isn't? Only thing I've had to do to mine is change the oil. They do eat tires though. Heavy SUV with AWD = bad for tire wear. I run Toyo Proxes STII on stock 19" rims and Blizzak on 18" rims for winter. That at least helps not buy tires as often!

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[mike]

I have owned 2 Touaregs (2006 V6 and 2004 V8), a 2009 Tiguan, and currently have a 2005 Cayenne S. All of those vehicles have served as my wife's DD and our family haulers. Both require premium fuel. There were some minor issues with the Tiguan which were fixed under warranty such as roof liner falling down and an electrical issue that blew a couple of fuses. The Tiguan was zippy and nimble for an SUV because it was smaller and turbocharged. There was no noticeable turbo lag. I was not a fan of the front wheel drive. The turbo spooled up very quickly and if you needed to pull into traffic from a side street, you could easily get wheel spin. The problem was that, even though the Touareg / Cayenne is not huge, the Tiguan was just too small for our needs.



The Cayenne is fun to drive and handles a little nicer than the Touareg. The engine is also a little livelier. There are a number documented issues common to the Cayenne S. As Darryl mentioned, they will go through a set of tires pretty quickly. The pre-2008 models have plastic coolant pipes that run under the manifold. These pipes have a tendency to crack and leak and, when that happens, it can ruin your starter, which for some reason, is also under the manifold. The leaking fluid can also ruin your torque converter pump seal. Porsche sells metal replacement tubes for around $500 (IIRC) and it will cost at least that much in labor to get them installed. Another common issue is the Cardan driveshaft. I believe that is about a $400-500 repair. The other common issues are coil packs that go bad (~ $60 x 8 plus labor). And the rear hatch struts will eventually need to be replaced and the whole inner rear roof liner has to come out to do that one. All of those issues were taken care of by the <acronym title='previous owner'>PO</acronym> on my Cayenne.



All issues aside, I was not unhappy with the Tiguan and we are currently enjoying the Cayenne S.

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