Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Delrin Issues...
#1

I installed delrin for both s/bars for a few months ago and have experienced a couple of issues.

The most frustrating was with the front center bushings. I would hear a slight knocking noise when driving over speed bumps or pulling into a steep driveway. At first I thought I had a ball-joint or rear a-arm support wearing out or a spindle bearing out of adjustment. It wasn't any of the above; it turned out to be a loose front/center bushing that was loose to the touch. The bracket was still tight, so I can only guess that the delring is wearing out[?] And, yes they were tight and lubed when installed. To remedity the problem I installed a thin rubber strip from a bike intertube and now it's quiet. If I recall they're made by Racers Edge, but I'll contact Paragon to see what they suggest.



Another issue is with the fasteners that retain the aluminum blocks that contain the bushings for the rear bar. I found that they come loose quite often which created a rattle in the back. After closer inspection I noticed the lock washers are a sub-standard size and merely spread apart after torquing. As a fix, I installed a standard lock-washer which are 50% thicker and actually lock the bolt. If they come loose again I'll consider using safety wire.

On a side note, I can't say I'm really impressed with the level of quality [or Engineering] of these "high-perf" parts that are supposed to be better than stock. We pay a little more because it goes on a P-Car yet the quality is 2nd rate. [now off my soapbox].



Anyway I was wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience..?
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.
Reply
#2

ron had the same problem - i cured it by grooving the bushings and packing them with moly grease - this of course then necessitated shaft collars because the new slippery bushings allowed the sway bar to move left to right (very bad)
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.

94 Midnight Metallic Blue Cab Porsche 968 w/deviating cashmere/black interior and WAY too many mods to list - thanks to eric for creating www.968forums.com



"It isn't nearly as expensive to do it right as it is to do it wrong."
Reply
#3

As mentioned the bushings were lubed upon install. If a non-migrating grease is used, it'll just fill the channel and not necessarily provide full lubrication. I haven't had any issues with the bar walking out of center.

I'm guessing that there was just enough clearance to allow movement and wear on the O.D. of the bushing. I measured the I.D. and seemed to be correct for a MO30 bar. I have no idea what the O.D. should be or machined to[?].

In any case I may need to find a way to limit or eliminate movement without binding the bar and include a zerk fitting.

Isn't it nice that we have the fun of re-engineering this supposed "hi-perf" stuff.... [this concludes todays rant]
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.
Reply
#4

lol - yeah - could be worse though - my eibach bars on the denali have polyurethane - what a racket
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.

94 Midnight Metallic Blue Cab Porsche 968 w/deviating cashmere/black interior and WAY too many mods to list - thanks to eric for creating www.968forums.com



"It isn't nearly as expensive to do it right as it is to do it wrong."
Reply
#5

Have you considered poly-graph bushings [graphite impregnated] for the GMC? I've heard they're quieter. I'll probably use them on my muscle car. Perhaps I should check if they have some for P-Cars.
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.
Reply
#6

i've used those in the past - they worked fine - i'm probably going to stick with delrin though - the grooves combined with the moly grease seems to be doing the trick - pretty sure i'll add a zirc soon though just to be complete - i have to make new bushings anyway for the new swaybars
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.

94 Midnight Metallic Blue Cab Porsche 968 w/deviating cashmere/black interior and WAY too many mods to list - thanks to eric for creating www.968forums.com



"It isn't nearly as expensive to do it right as it is to do it wrong."
Reply
#7

Actually I was referring to the GMC... I know you wouldn't run them on the 68.
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.
Reply
#8

How about something that could change the entire approach? I was reading that the new Cayenne has active sway bars. Wouldn't they be an interesting mod for the 968 - who knows what kind of bushings could be created to hold them in place?
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.
Reply
#9

pete - i was talking about the gmc too - i think i am going delrin there - over the years i've had more success with that material than anything else



jim - i had not read that yet - interesting - must find out more
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.

94 Midnight Metallic Blue Cab Porsche 968 w/deviating cashmere/black interior and WAY too many mods to list - thanks to eric for creating www.968forums.com



"It isn't nearly as expensive to do it right as it is to do it wrong."
Reply
#10

I think it's the current issue of Pano - the new Cayenne is on the cover, and there's a discussion about the optional suspension package that includes active sway bars.
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.
Reply
#11

Also, in the current issue of Excellence, there's an article about putting Poly-Graphite suspension bushings in a 914. What makes it good is that the author does some fitment engineering on the bushings and comes up with some very interesting techniques to ensure tight fit and no squeaks. Check it out.



-Mirror
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.
Reply
#12

will do - probably a lot better availability in that compound than in delrin - i'd probably end up having to make my own, just like i do for my new sway bars for this car
Partial Post: Please Login or Register to read the full post.

94 Midnight Metallic Blue Cab Porsche 968 w/deviating cashmere/black interior and WAY too many mods to list - thanks to eric for creating www.968forums.com



"It isn't nearly as expensive to do it right as it is to do it wrong."
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread / Author Replies Views Last Post
Last Post by MCL968
08-10-2021, 01:22 PM
Last Post by flash
11-19-2010, 01:20 PM

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)