[PorscheDude]

Bought this on impulse from Sunset Porsche when I placed an order for body gaskets.

After having a MOMO in almost every car I ever owned, I really love the feel and quality of this

wheel.



I highly recommend this upgrade. The cost is not as much as people suspect.

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[Duckman]

Wow. Very, very nice. What's the part number? Did you have to make any modifications, etc.?

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[PorscheDude]

Thanks! I really liked my MOMO (which now resides in my 951), but this a night and day difference.



Its a direct bolt-on and comes complete with the hub, but remember you will lose your airbag.

I think a resistor is needed to keep the air bag light off.

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[dporschey]

How much was it if you dont mind me asking.

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[PorscheDude]

$350 from Sunset Porsche. When I ordered it, he said there were 3 in stock.

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[Cloud9...68]

The diameter looks noticeably smaller than the stock wheel's. Is it much smaller? Thanks, and I agree, it looks very nice.

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[PorscheDude]

I think it is 360mm in dia. With a much thicker rim.

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[SILVY968]

I agree, a great interior upgrade. I got the Porsche crest installed when I ordered mine. You can add if you like the look. Here is a pic.

Brian

   

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[PorscheG96]

It's about 1" smaller diameter.



Does your horn work?

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[SILVY968]

[quote name='PorscheG96' post='61356' date='Oct 8 2008, 05:52 PM']It's about 1" smaller diameter.



Does your horn work?[/quote]

Yes, mine does. It hooks up the same way the old one did. The wheel adapter should have come with the horn ring piece.

p.s. the air bag warning light will not go on if you add a 3 Ohm resister across the airbag connector BEFORE you reconnect the main battery cable.

Brian



[quote name='Cloud9...68' post='61351' date='Oct 8 2008, 04:37 PM']The diameter looks noticeably smaller than the stock wheel's. Is it much smaller? Thanks, and I agree, it looks very nice.[/quote]

Stock about 15", CS about 14".

Brian

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[Cloud9...68]

[quote name='smokiemon968' post='61335' date='Oct 8 2008, 01:02 PM']Thanks! I really liked my MOMO (which now resides in my 951), but this a night and day difference.[/quote]

Out of curiosity, what is it about the CS wheel that you like better than the Momo? I've always loved Momo wheels, and I thought it might be a better choice for the track (Momo's tend to be made with grippier leather, and I believe they come in smaller diameters), as I'm spending more and more time on the track with my car. I do like the looks of the CS wheel very much as well, though.

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[gryphon]

That's a very pretty wheel, but I cannot imagine why anyone would want to eliminate the air bag in a street car. Yes, it may leave a Porsche logo on your chest, but in the process it probably also saved you life.



Tom

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[PorscheDude]

[quote name='Cloud9...68' post='61421' date='Oct 9 2008, 10:17 PM']Out of curiosity, what is it about the CS wheel that you like better than the Momo? I've always loved Momo wheels, and I thought it might be a better choice for the track (Momo's tend to be made with grippier leather, and I believe they come in smaller diameters), as I'm spending more and more time on the track with my car. I do like the looks of the CS wheel very much as well, though.[/quote]



The leather on the CS wheels is very grippy, the quality of the leather is far supperior, the rim is a little thicker.

Lastely, it just looks like belongs.

Dont get me wrong, I really love the MOMO. And for the price, you can not really beat the feel and quality of a MOMO.





[quote name='gryphon' post='61423' date='Oct 9 2008, 10:52 PM']That's a very pretty wheel, but I cannot imagine why anyone would want to eliminate the air bag in a street car. Yes, it may leave a Porsche logo on your chest, but in the process it probably also saved you life.



Tom[/quote]



Although I feel they the technology is great, I think they give a false sence of security. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

What are the chances of a 15 year old air bag working? <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/mellow.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

There was life before airbags <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/blink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Duckman]

Smokiemon, you raise an interesting question. What are the chances of a 15-year old air bag working? How about, working properly?



Does anyone know? Seriously, I'm very curious about it.



Personally, I wouldn't want to delete the airbag unless I had a shoulder harness. With a shoulder harness, I'd feel completely safe without the airbag.

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[flash]

they aren't rated to last that long - the type 1s are known to cause injury - they are unattractive - 3 strikes to me



but, i have harnesses



if you had to have an airbag, there are better options than the oem wheel, ranging in cost



while i get that airbags work, and i like that they are in the big cruiser, i do not want them in my toy - i prefer to be securely fastened into the car



i have crashed WAY too many cars, from a head on collision into a tree at 60 in an mgb, to flipping a car 3 times at 130 and then hitting a van coming head on - walked away every time - that isn't to say that i wasn't merely lucky, and that i don't count my blessings, or that airbags might not have helped, but the injuries were always minor



i was always belted well



we drove for decades without airbags and crumple zones - yes, the injury and fatality rate is decreased with them - is that necessarily a good thing though? should it be applied across the board? perhaps a threat of danger is a good thing



there is an argument to be made that these safety devices encourage people to drive beyond their abilities due to the sense of security

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[PorscheDude]

[quote name='Duckman' post='61434' date='Oct 10 2008, 09:50 AM']Smokiemon, you raise an interesting question. What are the chances of a 15-year old air bag working? How about, working properly?



Does anyone know? Seriously, I'm very curious about it.



Personally, I wouldn't want to delete the airbag unless I had a shoulder harness. With a shoulder harness, I'd feel completely safe without the airbag.[/quote]

I think the chances are good that it will actually deply, but will the end user get burned from the charge?



Buckle up...... <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[jeff968]

It looks great but I wouldn't want to lose the bag for safety reasons. They absolutely work. Take a look at the crashed 968 photos at the junkyards and you'll see.

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[flash]

of course they "work" - at least when they are in top condition - the question at hand however, is whether or not they actually did the job, and not merely deployed, and whether or not injury resulted due to deployment - the type 1 (as in our car) is much less effective than the new type, and known for causing injury - it also has a maximum life of something like 10 years, and then is supposed to be replaced



there is a reason that they are "secondary restraint systems" though - good harnesses outperform them by a long shot - ever seen airbags in race cars? you would think that would be the first place to put them if they could do the job better



this is not an endorsement of removal, but merely pointing out that there are other solutions for other situations



i'm definitely keeping the airbags in the denali and the M3

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[Anchorman]

The airbag is one of the reasons that I went with the 993 wheel replacement. For me, as well, I find the look more compatible with the car than the CS wheel - personal taste.



   



As for thickness and leather, I sent the wheel to Alan Gun and had him put on new padded leather - it's wonderful! This work was done subsequent to the photo, so the photo shows the original Porsche wheel.

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[Cloud9...68]

I remember reading an editorial in Car & Driver a couple of years ago quoting a major study that concluded that air bags (along with anti-lock brakes) haven't shown a statistically significant reduction in fatalaties. Part of the reason was speculated to be to "false sense of secutiry" factor. The only recent safety innovation that I've read to have been proven to reduce injuries/fatalities is electronic stability control, though I would have to believe that things like crumple zones, and general occupant area strengthening must be beneficial as well.



As far as using a full harness on the street, I'm not sure that's the best approach for overall safety, either. To be safe, you have to be belted in very tight, as Flash stated. But when you do this, you significantly reduce you ability to lean forward to see developing potentially dangerous situations, like at an intersection. I think the best bet is the good old inertia reel shoulder/lap belt, but as always, I could be convinced otherwise with data (the engineer in me talking)

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