[Ryan]

I have used my Lisle brand triple square tools set to work on my other car, but I tried to take the cam sproket off and the damn bolt head pretty much stripped out. Anybody know if that bolt is locktited?



I may need to get a better brand tool set. There is no mention of the tools being hard alloy or anything and the end is now sort of rounded off.

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[banditsc]

There the same, from what I have heard the only quality version on that tool is Snap-On, but you will pay for it. Sometime tapping the tool when it's in the bolt with a hammer will help wake up the bolt.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?t...re=snapon-store

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[PorscheDude]

The cheap ones will eventually round off and take you bolt with it.



Spend as much as you can for the triple squares.



Cheap always becomes expensive in the long run....

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[doster]

I,m having the same trouble, ended up with a snap on set for around 60. I haven't stripped that bolt yet but I know I've put 200 psi on it and nothing, and the impound did nothing next i'll try heat. There was a thread about this a while back so I know its not reverse thread. I keep telling myself to calm down/think and have a beer, but that was a few six packs ago and can,t think anymore <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/mad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[flash]

have you tried an impact? after verifying thread direction, i'd do that, in short pulses

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[Ryan]

I have both an air impact and the old fashion hammer type. I don't think the air imact is the way to go, but I may give the hammer type a shot. First I think I will get a new set of triple-square tools.

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[flash]

my air impact is adjustable - when i find a problem child like this, i dial it down, and hit it in quick pulses - usually works - i find i have better control than smacking a hammer type

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[Ryan]

Flash, the reason I would say use the hammer type is that when the bolt gets the torque it is also getting a blow that forces the tool bit as deep as it will go into the head of the bolt at the same time. The air impact is all going to torque and would not keep the tool seated as well.



Just my thoughts... mileage may vary

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[flash]

i get that - obviously important to seat that danged thing - i've used both methods, and have both tools for that very reason - have i mentioned i hate triple square?

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[NeedPorscheSpeed]

[quote name='flash' post='48209' date='Feb 26 2008, 11:58 AM']have i mentioned i hate triple square?[/quote]



You're not the only one! Back in the day, when I wasn't well-versed on the XZN curse and the nightmares that it can cause, I stripped three of these bolts while removing my camshafts. Drilling out the broken bolts made for a fun time, let me tell you... <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> I was using the Lisle "inserts" (acquired from Auto Zone) in a regular socket which allowed for too much play... Never again, I said! After have seen the light, I have used one-piece XZN sockets. Thankfully, I haven't stripped a bolt since. (Knock on wood! Thankfully, my desk is wooden. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/laugh.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> )

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[FRporscheman]

I once learned what a triple square bolt was, so I went to a local automotive tool specialty store. I asked for the tool, and the woman there asked me if I wanted the ones made in USA or Germany. The USA set (4 piece) was $30, while the German set (4 piece) was $100. I quickly asked for the American set and left. I figured craftsman and snap-on are American and they're good stuff, so this should be good. Well they worked for a few months, then they stripped 17 of 20 camshaft bolts. The 3 that came out alright only did because after 17 stripped bolts I went back and bought the German set. Thankfully the lady at the store bought back my "defective" American set on warranty.



I think the German brand is Stahlwille. Snap-on tools would have been nice, had I thought of that at the time... but I suspect it would have cost way more than $100 and the quality would be the same or negligibly higher.

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