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Carbon Fiber Hood
#61

The hood looks good! Perhaps VZ will consider using their mould for a cf piece if asked to do it.

About carbon vs glass. Mixing the two isn't only the moneysaving compromise you might think. A good mix for a hood would be two layers of 600 g/m2 carbon with a thin layer of glass in between. If you end up in the wall there is a good chance that such a hood will stay in one piece, kinda like the windscreen, instead of shattering in a million pieces. Kevlar would do the jod too but it is a pain to work with (although for a hood it should be ok).

I'm now looking for a stock hood that I can use to create a mould for my cf hood. I will make it as a lid (but it will have a reinforced underside in the correct place so that the seals will work) to be held by pins but it should be adaptable to the stock hinges if I want to. I plan to make it as I described above and it should weigh no more than 10 lbs (without clear coat).

The biggest issue now seems to find a cf carpet that is wide enough since I wanna lay one piece layers. So far the wider carpets that I have found are twice the price per gram compared to the normal width.
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#62

I am in utter awe of people like you who have the talent to create something as complex as the hood of a car, out of a material as intricate as carbon fiber. On my best day, I can draw a recognizable stick figure on my third try... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
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#63

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Actually, carbon isn't really that hard to work with. See someone do it once and then you can do it too. Even though carbon fiber is far from cheap the biggest reason for parts being expensive is that it is labour consuming. With the new user friendly epoxis you have a long bucket time so it is no stress, they are shrink free and you don't need an owen for baking in order to get the parts to be able to withstand higher temperatures. Heck, they're even free from spirits so you don't even need a mask while working with them (or so they say). Dust from sanding should be avoided though but I wet sand so it is not a big deal.
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#64

Max Crawford can make hoods & racing doors for our cars. My parts are at the paintshop right now, but his hood is really excellent. You'll have to wait--he has a few irons in the fire--but he is fair and I am pleased to say that all of my plastic parts on the car (except the seat) are made by Max. Wing, doors, dash, hood.
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#65

Please excuse my Newbie status, but is there contact info or web site information on this Max Crawford?
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#66

http://www.crawfordcomposites.com/

I imagine he is not cheap, but at the same time you get what you pay for....
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#67

Not cheap but fair, especially considering the quality. Mind you, it's not at Formula 1 level (perhaps some of you followed the construction of a 964 on another forum) but then I didn't have to bring cubic money either.
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#68

Julian,
Thanks for bring a fresh new face to 968 Forums with Racing Vendors who you've worked with.
Pete
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#69

I thought C/F had to be baked in an autoclave in order to cure???? Has that changed or are there different grades of C/F?
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#70

It has nothing to do with the carbon. It is about the epoxi. For use in high temperature environments it is good if you can bake the cf part in an owen as that process will increase the temperature resistance of the epoxi. However newer and better epoxis are here and they are able to stand temperatures well in the 150 degrees Centigrade range despite being cured in normal room temperature. And in addition to this they are also 100% shrink free.
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#71

looking forward to seeing one - if it comes out OEM fit and finish, i see myself getting one for the next repaint
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