[flash]

doesn't run well.  won't pass emissions tests.

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[williamoss]

Oregon had an exemption foe cars 20 years or older. Pay $200 or $250 and drive less than 2000 miles a year and no more pollution inspections, but then they raised it to 25 years old cars. This way the state collects revenue on by yearly pollution inspections and registration fees.

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[wildcat]

And who drives less than 2000 miles a year? Bureaucracy gone nuts... (This was the little old lady from Pasadena exemption clause no doubt.) 

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[flash]

there were definitely years that i did not put 2000 miles on the blue car

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[ds968]

Sigh, same here with the blue car ..actually less than 1 k miles this year . I almost regret having bought the second 968 .. Almost. :-)

Back to smog checks , IMO it is mostly bureaucratic / revenue generating b.s. - the environmental impact from the negligible percentage of cars still on the road whose emissions might be above the test threshold is probably 0.000000000000000000000000001

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[flash]

it certainly is decreasing.  i also agree that the standards are somewhat arbitrary, and the test should be merely if it is clean or not.  the problem with that idea is that a good tuner can tweak a car to pass, and then tweak it back when it's done.  that then means that the rest of the time the car is polluting.

 

the standards are getting tighter everywhere.  about 40 states now have testing, that did not before.  the federal law now requires regular air quality testing, and as an area gets dirtier, testing comes in.   as the population increases, pollution increases.  so, you may live in an area that has no testing now, but will later.  there are no guarantees regarding any grandfathering either.  the law does not require it.  your "exempt" car may someday require testing.

 

that's why i went through the CARB certification process when i designed the supercharger kit.  better safe than sorry.

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[ds968]

Wondering whatever happened to random "surprise" checks , aka mobile tests . Last I heard the ACLU had filed a lawsuit and was granted an injunction but that was last year and I have not kept up with what and if there was a final determination ..unless the matter is still tied up in courts.

Sheesh , talk about government overreach.. here you are peacefully driving your clean diesel VW, and suddenly you get pulled over and your tail pipe is violated .. :-) :-)

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[az968]

Maybe we could get the VW diesel software mod and never have to worry about smog checks again.

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[ds968]

No doubt D1R could program something along those lines for the 969, but Flash the borderline tree-hugger that he is ( and I say that in the kindest way possible , lol ) would be repulsed by the suggestion :-) . Not to mention the civil and criminal penalties associated with a stunt like that ..Folsom state prison does not have reserved parking spots for Targas.

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[94SilverCab]

PA has a 5,000 mile exemption, pretty reasonable.

 

Jay

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[williamoss]

what I find even sillier is in Oregon only cars around Portland area are subject to smog inspection while cars south of here as in
Salem a 45 minute drive along I-5 does (our state capital) or any other place in Oregon does not require  inspections. Which in effect says cars driven in greater Oregon do not pollute but only cars around Portland do. The reality is it costs to much to build or maintain a smog pollution center anyplace except Portland. In NJ which used to have similar centers but then eliminated them allowing drivers to have inspections done at their local gas station. Cheaper for the state and more covenant for drivers.

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[MCL968]

The new machines in Nevada don't report your actual emissions, only Pass/Fail. I think if you are paying, you should at least get something of value. Kind of like a little annual health check for your car. While I appreciate that the 968 always passes, I would really like to know how well it passed.

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[wildcat]

there were definitely years that i did not put 2000 miles on the blue car

Well you be lucky to live in Cali then cause last time it cost me $113 and the miles be unlimited.

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[flash]

lol - i don't live in columbia (people from here do not call it "cali")

 

my miles are unlimited.  i just don't drive the car.  i drove it a lot the first year i had it (over 17k that year), and then mot much for the next 10 years.  i've averaged 2500 a year, but some years was less than 1000, and others 4k -5k.  that's why i'm selling it.  it's just not what i want to drive anymore.

 

but, it has always passed smog with flying colors, and is actually cleaner now with the supercharger.  i have bumped into smog referees that would not even look at the car though.  not even the stock white one.  it's getting harder and harder for older cars.

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[wildcat]

My great grand father lived on Mt. Lassen before they made it a park.  Its not California anymore so I call it Cali, a lot of people do.

 

I understand about the car and I realised it later, that collectors might not put more than 2000 miles on a car.

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[az968]

AZ is like Oregon, only the metro Phoenix and Tucson area does smog check. In Prescott there is no check. My 914 track car was equipped with carbs, headers, custom exhaust, etc so I registered it in my mother's name in Yuma, no smog check. My out of town track car never had to be checked and I could drive it to the track.

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[flash]

in 50 years i have never heard a native californian call it cali.  that's something reserved for transplants, and usually from the east coast.  for those who are from here, it's always california.  beyond that, it more often than not gets more specific, and it's norcal, socal, bay area, or "the city".

 

frisco is another thing reserved for foreigners.  makes most of us cringe when we hear that.

 

as for mileage, many guys now use their 968 only for track events, and consequently don't put that many miles on them.

 

many of us have a number of cars, and a 968 isn't usually as practical of a daily driver for most people.

 

mine just stopped being the car i wanted to drive.  it never really did have that many occasions to be driven.  i usually preferred to drive one of the other cars.

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[968Syncro]

I spent a lot of time in Seattle in the last decade, and often heard "Cali" -- its use was intentionally pejorative.

 

Now that "winter" at some point will supposedly come to SoCal, I will be driving the Vanagon more and the 968 less.

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[Rap]

As, you had, have an in and out of town track car?

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[MCL968]

I spent a lot of time in Seattle in the last decade, and often heard "Cali" -- its use was intentionally pejorative.

 

Now that "winter" at some point will supposedly come to SoCal, I will be driving the Vanagon more and the 968 less.

As of late, many of my students who come to Nevada from California to attend college refer to it as "Cali". As a native Californian I find this curious, but it seems to be entirely appropriate given their penchant for reducing communications to 140 characters or less.

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