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A Trip to the Barn
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Had a great drive up to PA last Friday. Perfect weather, a sunny, 80 degrees and a nice breeze. My nav took me through some wooded twisty back roads, nothing like an open roof and fresh air. Actually, I had to go over 50 miles away from Newtown first to pick up a set of 18” Rims. I'll be installing them later.

So after finally finding German ave, I met the famous Pete in person. He took me through the shop, showed me a few cars, then we went for a spin in my car. First thing of note was my clutch. It was replaced by the PO but I have no paper work on it. "Feels too heavy" say's Pete. So he's gonna take a look at that. The 2nd point was a good one for the forums. He explained the problem with modding the airbox and not adding the chip. I’m actually running too lean. If anyone has done the AB mod the chip should be done at the same time. Out side of that things seemed fine with my car. Of course he has to get it in the air to go over it well but I do feel its in good hands.

Eagerly awaiting his eval.

A few pics

The Barn
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A 968 Turbo. The wing is really interesting. But I believe he told me to get one would cost me about $1500
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A little fun with a Carrera S on I95.
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What was he thinking running with a 968?
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#2

Sometimes I wish we had an RSB on the left-coast...
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#3

Someday I'm going to make my own trek...
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<!--quoteo(post=72481:date=May 24 2009, 07:05 PM:name=rhudeboye)-->QUOTE (rhudeboye @ May 24 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He explained the problem with modding the airbox and not adding the chip. I’m actually running too lean. If anyone has done the AB mod the chip should be done at the same time.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


More on this please. I have not read this before. I did the airbox but I'm too lazy to change the chip. Is this a serious problem for the engine? Lean can be bad.

ps - what is the RS for btw (i get the BARN part now)?
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I'm guessing RS is for Rennsport
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<!--quoteo(post=72490:date=May 24 2009, 08:59 PM:name=Cloud9...68)-->QUOTE (Cloud9...68 @ May 24 2009, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Someday I'm going to make my own trek...<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<!--quoteo(post=72497:date=May 25 2009, 05:44 AM:name=rxter)-->QUOTE (rxter @ May 25 2009, 05:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->More on this please. I have not read this before. I did the airbox but I'm too lazy to change the chip. Is this a serious problem for the engine? Lean can be bad.

ps - what is the RS for btw (i get the BARN part now)?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Rxter

I'm not that guy you go to for tech talk. But I will try to reiterate Petes advice.

Pete took his his little pad in which he was taking notes on my car and drew a curved line showing the efficiency of the stock 68. As the line curved he circled the sweet spot which is about 4k RPM ( right in the middle of his line) and highlighted that in Germany not only are emissions tested and strict but so is noise levels. Then he drew a line parallel, about an 1/8" above the other. Showing how a greater intake of air offsets the numbers factored in with the orig software. This pushes the sweet spot back to 5000 and causes everything to work harder as the car is running too lean across the board. Not a dangerous thing to do but your not helping anything.
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#8

Geez-

I wish you all would let me know when you are going to the Barn- I work about 15 minutes from there and would love to meet other 968 owners!

Besides- I always like to bug Pete and Max with my questions. I think they're a bit masochistic.... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
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<!--quoteo(post=72553:date=May 26 2009, 05:50 AM:name=biotechee)-->QUOTE (biotechee @ May 26 2009, 05:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Geez-

I wish you all would let me know when you are going to the Barn- I work about 15 minutes from there and would love to meet other 968 owners!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Didn't cross my mind. I will let you know when I come to pick the car up in a couple of weeks.

BTW- Nice town. I'd like to grab lunch at local spot before heading back home next time.
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I think that black 68 in your first pic is my race car that Pete and Max are building out. It's at the cage fabricator now.

Big final push to get it ready for the SCCA National race where I will run in STU - that's the class for the former World Challenge Touring cars. Then I'll run in the Pro IT race Sunday racing the car in it's true class ITR or Improved Touring - R is the fastest of the IT classes. ITE is for "E = everything" no rules so I don't count that class other than a catch all for the misfits that don't line up with the classes that enforce the rules.

Hoping we make it!
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<!--quoteo(post=72581:date=May 26 2009, 01:50 PM:name=benspeeder)-->QUOTE (benspeeder @ May 26 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I think that black 68 in your first pic is my race car that Pete and Max are building out. It's at the cage fabricator now.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Nope, yours was on the lift inside. He had about 3 other 68s out back also. He told me a bit about your project. Was that LSD Max was banging on for your car? Pete really liked this new LSD which, get this, Toyota has now purchased the company!

The bk 68 in pic 1 is mine and if you zoom in you will see me on the left and Pete on the right. My buddy had the cam.
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I'm confused about the chip issue. Pete sold me a stock chip for my 968 which had the air box mod. I don't think he would have made a mistake on this.

Tom
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i saw no indications of an unusual or dangerous lean condition with the stock chip and airbox mod in the tests i did - however, the stock chip runs very lean to begin with over most of the curve - therefore, if anything were out of whack on the car, it could theoretically be problematic

that being said, some aftermarket chips work better than others with the mod - there has been more than enough posted on that subject though
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"It isn't nearly as expensive to do it right as it is to do it wrong."
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<!--quoteo(post=72601:date=May 26 2009, 03:54 PM:name=gryphon)-->QUOTE (gryphon @ May 26 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'm confused about the chip issue. Pete sold me a stock chip for my 968 which had the air box mod. I don't think he would have made a mistake on this.

Tom<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Call Pete and express your concern. I sure he could clear things up for you. Perhaps he'll chime in on this thread. With a title like a trip to the Barn I'm sure he'll give this topic a glance.
Oh and Pete. I think I left my ipod touch under the seat. Please keep it safe.
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<!--quoteo(post=72599:date=May 26 2009, 05:08 PM:name=rhudeboye)-->QUOTE (rhudeboye @ May 26 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Nope, yours was on the lift inside. He had about 3 other 68s out back also. He told me a bit about your project. Was that LSD Max was banging on for your car? Pete really liked this new LSD which, get this, Toyota has now purchased the company!

The bk 68 in pic 1 is mine and if you zoom in you will see me on the left and Pete on the right. My buddy had the cam.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

My car has a G50 LSD in it - pretty good for racing. I know Pete is VERY stoked on the new diff he's been testing.
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<!--quoteo(post=72560:date=May 26 2009, 10:04 AM:name=rhudeboye)-->QUOTE (rhudeboye @ May 26 2009, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Didn't cross my mind. I will let you know when I come to pick the car up in a couple of weeks.

BTW- Nice town. I'd like to grab lunch at local spot before heading back home next time.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Keep me posted! Perhaps Pete can suggest a cool place for eats. I live about 30 minutes away from Pete's, so I am not too familiar with the Newtown scene. Only really ever been to a couple of nearby pizza joints, all of which were good!
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#17

If its a Friday Afternoon keep me posted. I work in Center City, but live 4 miles from RS Barn.

Meglio's Pizza is the RS Barn Hangout, but you might want to try Friends, or Green Parrot.

Perhaps an improptu run around Bucks County (I could pull out an old fun run map)?

Jay
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<!--quoteo(post=72635:date=May 27 2009, 08:39 AM:name=biotechee)-->QUOTE (biotechee @ May 27 2009, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Keep me posted! Perhaps Pete can suggest a cool place for eats. I live about 30 minutes away from Pete's, so I am not too familiar with the Newtown scene. Only really ever been to a couple of nearby pizza joints, all of which were good!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


<!--quoteo(post=72637:date=May 27 2009, 08:45 AM:name=94SilverCab)-->QUOTE (94SilverCab @ May 27 2009, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If its a Friday Afternoon keep me posted. I work in Center City, but live 4 miles from RS Barn.

Meglio's Pizza is the RS Barn Hangout, but you might want to try Friends, or Green Parrot.

Perhaps an improptu run around Bucks County (I could pull out an old fun run map)?

Jay<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This is turning into a nice little meet. I really enjoyed the drive around the Newtown area and the citys I passed coming in. If weather permits, a fun run with a few friends would be awesome in my newly tuned car.
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#19

Impromptu fun run would be nice.... I know I have my daughter's field trip coming up soon and this Friday is out for me, but I think any of the subsequent Fridays would work.

If not, just stopping by the Barn, saying hello and grabbing a slice or two of 'za works for me as well!
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#20

Damn, you guys are making me so jealous! Maybe I should move to Pennsylvania so I can come play too!
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