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a day at the Garage-Mahal
#1

Well, actually more like two and a half days if you count in the beer time, the dinners, the trip to the alignment shop ( which was all the way in a different county ), yada, yada..



So Bob spent the better part of his Wednesday afternoon/evening and most of Thursday as a contortionist under my car retrofitting and installing my new suspension components. I won't even talk about the run around and time he spent during days prior to the job, getting the parts to ship on time, tracking people down, etc. Friday morning and mid-day was dedicated to driving to, and in the alignment shop ( took separate cars, as I continued on elsewehere from there ) since Bob wanted to make sure the set up was not going to deviate in the least bit from perfection. I should mention that he did all the conversion and installation work by himself, mostly because I have two left hands <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> and would only hinder the process <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> . But I did get to drink lots of beer and admire the work from afar <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/cool.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> .



The new 968 ingredients: front and rear M030 bars, front Koni coilovers conversion, KLA rear coilovers, and all the little thingamajiggies that go along with making this car handle like a dream come true.. which it does now. If you need technical details ask him, I can't possibly answer any such questions.. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/unsure.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



As if doing this job wasn't enough; great hosts that he and Ayn are, I had a wonderful stay at their place for two days, ejoying some serious steaks, drinking wine, and sleeping off the hangovers in the new house's beautiful guest bedroom. Yes, for those that do not know the real Bob, this is a reflection of his character: he had nothing to gain from the experience but the satisfaction of realizing improvements to yet one more 968, and the appreciation of its owner. THANKS Bob !



But wait, there's more: not related to the suspension but certainly a part of this trip's experience: while at Bob's I got the stainless steel clutch hose and put in in the trunk to take home and save for a rainy day.

Astronomical odds of this happening, but that "rain" came the very next day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At a stop light

in Los Angeles, on my way to meeting some friends for dinner that night the clutch pedal suddenly sunk to the floor and remained there ! This is on a Friday late afternoon, Easter holiday weekend, 400 miles away from home where my wife and son are expecting me on Saturday and was told by AAA that sending a tow truck will take three to four hours. And then what ? Every place I could possibly tow it to would be closed until Monday. While deciding whether to look for an ammunition shop, buy a gun and shoot myself

( saving my wife the task when I eventually would have come home without the car ) less than half a block away I spot "A1 Performance" shop, walk over and notice they were working on a Mercedes, a BMW and a Boxster.. with a Volvo, a Lexus and some other cars waiting to be serviced. I tell the owner what just took place, the crisis I am facing and then inform him that I happen to have the new part in my car...just need someone to put it in. You can imagine the look I got relative to having a spare clutch hose readily available, just as the other hose busted practically in front of his shop. The " yeah, sure..." look was all over his face. But I must have done a good enough job of convincing and begging, that he helped me push the car in, and within one hour the hose was installed, the system bleeded ( albeit manually ) sufficiently enough to take me home the next day. Quite possibly this man may have saved the mental breakdown I would have undoubtedly had, and may be a very costly divorce, as well. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/blink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



The stars were aligned that day, and 'm not talking about the ones on Hollywood's walk of fame.
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#2

Seems to me that you should replace the master and slave clutch cylinders.

You do not want to repeat that crappy experience and the new hose will push the old cylinders to the breaking point.



This story reminds me why I keep a DMA relay a fan relay and a heater valve in the trunk.



Oh yah, what you said about Bob is correct. Genuinely a nice guy. I am glad that we own the same car! He has helped me out on many occasions!

Brian
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#3

awwww - you guys - now i'm blushing - but thanks



i had a great time having dan down - we had fun, and got his car set up too - pretty dramatic difference - he was bone stock with original struts and shocks and the dinky stock sway bars - now he has koni gas with 250# springs up front and adjustable fluid shocks with additional 95# springs in the back, with M030 bars and a tarret sway bar brace - i did a full 4 corner ride height set, loaded as he drives it, and we then did a nice sporty highway alignment (not as aggressive as a canyon alignment) very nice balance, and just what he was after - smooth ride on the road, but firms up nicely when you ask it to - basically it's a full a step up from the H&R/koni setup, and a good half step up from the M030 setup, and a whole lot easier to adjust



it took a few cool parts to make it all work out, but in the end, it was a great setup for him



it just killed me when the phone rang and he told me what happened - i was on the road headed back home after inspecting my new race trailer, and was scrambling to find another shop in case the one he died at couldn't handle the job - glad it all worked out though, and he got home safely



i told dan the same thing about the master and slave - there have been way too many subsequent failures resulting from changing only one part - i believe he is addressing that next week
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"It isn't nearly as expensive to do it right as it is to do it wrong."
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#4

Sounds like everyone should visit the Garage-Mahal at least once (Still hoping to see a video tour! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> )



btw, isn't it possible to drive a standard without the use of the clutch? I heard you can stick it in second while the engine is off, get it going using the starter, and at least get to a mechanic (carefully).
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#5

if everything is right, and your nerve is intact, it can be done, but it isn't easy, and you can't stop - it's also very hard on the gears and the starter



it was much easier in the crashbox mgb than it was in this car - i opted for the less expensive route of a tow (broken headlight and dented fender courtesy of the tow truck driver not withstanding)
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"It isn't nearly as expensive to do it right as it is to do it wrong."
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#6

One of the best things I discovered about the GarageMahal is the seemingly neverending supply of Newcastle in the 'fridge.



Bob is a great host.
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#7

As I noted in a previous post when the subject of clutch hydraulic failure was discussed, it is possible to drive and shift gears in a 968 without using the clutch. Mine failed on a cold rainy night and Triple A told me they would be 3 hours getting to me so I called my shop, got some basic instruction and drove home. It most certainly isn't for the faint of heart because you definitely have to feel your way through the gears and it leads to some horrible gear clashing sounds. When I did the pinon gear replacement 6 months later, I freshened the entire transmission. Virtually no fragments in the box and you would never know the transmission had been shifted clutchless by looking at the gears. The synchros needed replacing but the car had a 112,000 miles on it at the time so I think that was just routine wear
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#8

Dan, wtf??? holy cow!





Flash good lookin out!





almost the one year anniversary of my own clutch failure and Bob-to-the-rescue saga. . . <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/laugh.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



it's great to have friends no? <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#9

What the heck? Why is it that all the NorCal guys are blowing clutch lines? Mine went this Thanksgiving on the way to Tahoe (drove home sans clutch in Thanksgiving traffic -- not for the faint of heart....). Must be some conspiracy....
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#10

I’m sorry, is this the very same Flash that has been trounced, flounced, denounced and bounced from 2 other forums for posting such ugly comments as “nice site” and “ I think you may have infringed on a copyright”…surely such a demon must spend all his energy in thinking up ways to create havoc and bring down once tranquil and mighty websites. How can I reconcile a “Dastardly” villain such as this with the helpful altruistic individual being described here?



No doubt you have been brainwashed…yet another trick by this evil monster?



(Remember, I only promised to TRY and be good)



Jay
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#11

No worries, Jay. I actually feel the EXACT same way when I read the slander against Bob <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/huh.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> , having made the pilgrimage to the Garage Mahal myself, and partaken in the endless Newcastle! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



I told Bob at one point that I really felt as though I should have brought him a bottle of wine after he had looked my car over and make a few quick fixes to things I hadn't even SEEN yet... how he noticed that one of the screws in my power-window module cover was backed out a little will puzzle me forever <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />









[quote name='94SilverCab' post='34033' date='Apr 11 2007, 01:14 PM']...been trounced, flounced, denounced and bounced...[/quote]



Bob- THIS IS YOUR NEW SIG LINE!!!!!!!





Dave

San Diego
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#12

Makes you think that some people are just jealous!
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#13

First we're seeing unsolicited praise about Pete/RSBarn, and now about Flash/Garage-Mahal. What's going on here? Could it be that we're reaching 968 nirvana?
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#14

If the truth must be known.. all the comments in my post were made under duress - Bob handed me a beer and then refused to give me the bottle opener <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/mad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> until I wrote the forum on what a great guy he is.



But now that I am safely 400 miles away from him and his evil methods I can reveal what I truly suspect happened to the clucth hose: while pretending to "work on the suspension" and while I was intoxicated by several newcastles, he undoubtedly used a sharp instrument to puncture the hose simply so I have no choice but to install the upgraded part ( which he, so conveniently just happened to have sold me the day before.. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> ) giving him a means of testing the viability the product during a long trip. Surely, this was going to be folloed by gloating about the results in addition to taking credit for warning users of the impending doom of the oem part.



Yeah, that's the ticket. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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[quote name='Chris Vais' post='34028' date='Apr 11 2007, 10:51 AM']As I noted in a previous post when the subject of clutch hydraulic failure was discussed, it is possible to drive and shift gears in a 968 without using the clutch...



it leads to some horrible gear clashing sounds.[/quote]



Chris-



After your new hose was installed were the shifts to every gear clean w/ no grinds while entering the gear? As I understand it, clutchless shifting takes its toll on the sychros as the meshing of gears are a bit violent w/o the clutch.



I have a slight grind when pulling into 2nd now. I suspect the synchro but my gearbox was just refreshed last Oct do to a bad 4th gear. The last thing I want is to pay that labor again for a 1 synchro. Meantime I’m skipping 2nd by revving up 1st then making a U to 3rd.



I Luv the car but like all relationships its beginning to pain my heart (and wallet).
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[quote name='rhudeboye' post='34064' date='Apr 12 2007, 09:49 AM']I Luv the car but like all relationships its beginning to pain my heart (and wallet).[/quote]



Tell me about it <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/mellow.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#17

The trick is to enjoy the car and stop counting what you "invest" to get the pleasure. As I tell my wife, I don't play golf, so the 968 is my greens fees. There's no return on those expenses except pleasure (sometimes), and it's the same with the 968 - but the "return", in the form of pleasure, is more consistent.
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[quote name='Anchorman' post='34074' date='Apr 12 2007, 12:15 PM']The trick is to enjoy the car and stop counting what you "invest" to get the pleasure. As I tell my wife, I don't play golf, so the 968 is my greens fees. There's no return on those expenses except pleasure (sometimes), and it's the same with the 968 - but the "return", in the form of pleasure, is more consistent.[/quote]



Never looked at it that way before.

Your a very smart man.
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[quote name='rhudeboye' post='34064' date='Apr 12 2007, 09:49 AM']Chris-



After your new hose was installed were the shifts to every gear clean w/ no grinds while entering the gear? As I understand it, clutchless shifting takes its toll on the sychros as the meshing of gears are a bit violent w/o the clutch.



I have a slight grind when pulling into 2nd now. I suspect the synchro but my gearbox was just refreshed last Oct do to a bad 4th gear. The last thing I want is to pay that labor again for a 1 synchro. Meantime I’m skipping 2nd by revving up 1st then making a U to 3rd.



I Luv the car but like all relationships its beginning to pain my heart (and wallet).[/quote]

Rhudeboye



Before the clutch line failed, I had weak second and third gear synchros, so once the clutch line was repaired there wasn't any noticble degradation in shifting. Six months later when I did the pinion gear. I also replaced all of the synchros and you could see that the second and third gear synchros had significant wear as was expected by the way the gear box was shifting prior to the clutch line replacement. There was definite wear on the synchros for first and third. I have always operated on the theory that transmission synchros are intended to be sacrificial and in my case it appears that they did function in that way because the gears themselves were no worse for the wear.



Some of the muscle cars that I have owned in the past went through synchros like you wouldn't believe.



[quote name='Anchorman' post='34074' date='Apr 12 2007, 12:15 PM']The trick is to enjoy the car and stop counting what you "invest" to get the pleasure. As I tell my wife, I don't play golf, so the 968 is my greens fees. There's no return on those expenses except pleasure (sometimes), and it's the same with the 968 - but the "return", in the form of pleasure, is more consistent.[/quote]



Anchorman



I agree, I bought this car as an investment in my owm pleasure. I like your equating repair costs to green fees. Fortunately my "green fees" are on a par with my local municipal course, but I know that there one some of us out there that have "green fees" that are approaching Pebble Beach or Spyglass.
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I got to play Spyglass just last year <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/sad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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