[Kaj Hallstrom]

Do I have the impression that 968'owners  keep there cars in better shape that 944/928 owners or is just an illusion.

Just curious about your inputs. When I see 968 pictures posted they all look so good and there are so few around.

 

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[Rap]

I never see 968 pics. I do see a number of 944 for sale and looking good on bring a trailer.

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[ds968]

What' s a 955  ?!        I've seen a couple of 928s in excellent shape,  but have not seen a 944 which didn't look as if it needed to be held together with duct tape..   

 

( Not in photos...just live )      

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[MCL968]

I think Kaj is right. When I scan the Craigslist ads in my area, there are always a few 924s and 944s in rough shape, and usually a couple of 928's ranging from pristine to parts cars. But never are there 968s in the same state of disrepair. There was one several years ago that was rough from sitting is a garage after a belt failure, but it was still a 5/10, even with all the dust of the ages and the ratty interior.

 

What it means I cannot say, but it may reflect the low production numbers more than anything.

 

Matt

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[pdxmike]

Fun question!

• Porsche learned from their mistakes and the 968 reflects the refinement of the transaxle series
  
• Otherworldly build quality; assembled in Zuffenhausen instead of at the Audi plant
  
• Market dynamics: price was very high for the early 90s and buyers had the option of cheaper, newer Japanese options (FD RX7, Miata, Supra, 300ZX). The 93 Turbo V6 300ZX listed at $38,000 vs $40,000 for the NA 4-banger 968.
  
• So if you bought a 968, you really wanted one and had the means; thus they were better cared for by the original owners
  
• Relatively few were sold so the secondary market has always been stronger than for 944s, drawing in more dedicated second/third/etc owners with more means to maintain
  
• And, there are many, many 944s still out there (928s, too) which means that just by strength of numbers, you're more likely to come across the ones that have been abused and poorly maintained.  
  

JHMO

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[Kim]

955 is a Cayenne version 1 2002-2006.

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[Rap]

12,000 worldwide, 4400(or so) in North America. I agree that it is a numbers issue.

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[MLB]

Blah blah blah

I think Kaj simply started this thread as an excuse to show another picture of his stunning amethyst dazzler

LOL :0)

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[ds968]

I should have specified, the couple of 928s I've seen which were in great condition were both the late GT / GTS models and I believe those were even more limited than the production numbers of the 968, so I'd think the owners would want to keep them in tip top shape..

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[Rap]

MLB I think you’re right. Kaj why don’t you just start a pic thread?

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[Ryan]

Maintenance is so high on the trans-axle cars that the lesser models became throw away cars or drive till they broke cars. There are still nice 944s and 928s out there but I agree, they tend to be the rare or high end models. There are quite a few roached out 968s out there but they are becoming hard to find due to the value of their parts to dismantlers .  

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[az968]

I've even heard of people converting their 968's to track cars, if you can imagine that.  And then smacking them so hard they have to get another 968 and convert it

 

That's no way to keep them looking good.

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[Chris Vais]

The 944s that turn up on Bring A Trailer are always well kept cars that typically sell at the very high end of the market. I don't see very many 968s on the street. None of the few I have seen would be classified as a beater. I haven't seen many 944 beakers either. To be sure are plenty of well used ones out there that could benefit from a cosmetic do over, but nothing the beater Toyotas and Hondas that infest the East Bay.

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[Rap]

Hey be careful about criticizing those who convert their 968’s into track cars. Despite what certain folks think it’s a solid platform. I’m taking my 968 which I gutted to convert to a track car to Watkins Glen on Sunday. Oh wee. Although smacking them is no fun!

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[Kaj Hallstrom]

Oh geeee!!...whar did I get myself into. Forget the 955 typo. just my trigger happy fingers. I think most of you agree. The 968's are better maintained than most 924/928/944's

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[timmerrifield]

I have about $35,000 into my 1995 968 Cab that at a stretch is worth $18K. Just put another 2K (brakes, main oil seal, fluid changes) in for summer 2018. I have work done professionally. I like the way it looks and drives. Put me in the category of an owner that keeps mine in tip top shape.

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[Kaj Hallstrom]

Interesting!!....bought mine at 59000 miles in 2015. Now 3 years later (72000 miles) I have spent in repairs and maintenance less than $3500 of which the timing/balance/water pump was $3000. The only repair I have had was a starter replacement and a front wheel bushing.........wanna see more pics of the Dazzler?......no I will spare you.!!

 

All you guys have wonderful well maintained good looking 968's ...I hope you are proud of them!!

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[Rap]

No more pics? Oh no!

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[tejon007]

Because the 968 cost so much compared to other sports cars at the time (as previously mentioned), it may have led to leasing them to move some dealer's inventories. Leased cars generally have built-in maintenance schedules and penalties for too many miles by lease-end, leading to well maintained lower mileage 968s available several years down the road. And those 968s coming off leases allowed the 968s to adjust prices closer to market. Combined with a well engineered machine built for many miles...they tend to hold up for all these years since production.


Any idea how many 968s were originally leased vs. sold?

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[Kaj Hallstrom]

That would be a Jeff Coe question.

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