[Tomikaze]

I grew up 10 minutes from this place. Heard stories about famous racers from the 60's that visited here. In my time it was only a circle track (boring). The road course closed in 1978. I've moved away but I came home to check this place out. Pretty cool. Had a great time. Here's a photo...

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[Cloud9...68]

Nice photo, but I'm confused. You said the road course closed in 1978, and yet there you are, driving on it. Great Scot, a fellow 968-er has invented a time machine! I knew this was a bright group, but I had no idea how brilliant! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.png" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Rap]

Notice a red coupe is leading a BMW and a Vette? Nice!

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[Tomikaze]

Reopened this year.

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Notice a red coupe is leading a BMW and a Vette? Nice!

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Trust me. I got passed by them pretty quick.

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[ds968]

[quote name='Tomikaze' timestamp='1405691585' post='160239']Reopened this year

Trust me. I got passed by them pretty quick.[/quote]



Surprised that BMW passed by , not so shocked about the Vette, those things are crazy fast and now they come in those versions that can also take turns half way decently , lol.

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[JWahlsten]

DS, I think you would be surprised at how fast the E46 M3 is... The E36 M3 is more on pace with the 968, and that car looks pretty well setup just by viewing the front end.

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[Tomikaze]

Then I got passed by the actual E36 M3 GTR PPG/Yokohama car. I've had a poster of it in my garage now for years. Guy was just out exercising it. That was pretty cool.

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[ds968]

[quote name='JWahlsten' timestamp='1405942661' post='160365']DS, I think you would be surprised at how fast the E46 M3 is... The E36 M3 is more on pace with the 968, and that car looks pretty well setup just by viewing the front end.[/quote]



I guess it depends on what year it is ? I know that with just the chip , air box mod, catback and around 75 lbs off stock weight, in my six speed 968, I was able to consistently edge ahead of E 46 M3s, on freeway runs ( not 0-60 ) . The E 36 M3s weren't even a sweat, lol. So I wonder if the E 46 had a few generations where they continued to increase the power from one year to the next ..

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[Tomikaze]

And if you don't think an E46 M3 is a fast car go test drive one. It will embarrass a 968.

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[Tomikaze]

I have roughly the same mods that you mention. Stripped interior, Airbox, cat back and RS Barn chip. My car runs very strong. I even had $112 of 98 octane in the tank that day. E46's consistently walked away from me anywhere there was a straight.



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I guess it depends on what year it is ? I know that with just the chip , air box mod, catback and around 75 lbs off stock weight, in my six speed 968, I was able to consistently edge ahead of E 46 M3s, on freeway runs ( not 0-60 ) . The E 36 M3s weren't even a sweat, lol. So I wonder if the E 46 had a few generations where they continued to increase the power from one year to the next ..

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[ds968]

Are you referring to the newer M3s with the V8 in them, or the early 2000's models ?

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[type968]

E46 333HP, 262FTLBs 0-60 4.9. 3,415lbs curb weight.





Depends on year <1995>

E36 286hp and 317hp, 238 and 260 FTLBs, 3,219lbs curb weight

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[ds968]

As I mentioned, this was not a stop light to stop light contest, tne M3s would easily smack any 968 in that respect , so not sure if it's the gearing, or aerodynamics , or what else comes into play but from about 80 mph to 140 mph + , the three or four E46s ( one was 1999

I believe , the other 2001 , and the other two no idea, but looked roughly the same era ) did NOT outrun my slightly modified 968. It's not as if I outran them either, but stayed about half car ahead ...until they gave up around that 140 -145 mark...

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[JWahlsten]

DS,



I'm surprised you were able to stay that close. The E46 is a faster car than the 968. I love dueling with the E36 on the track, but the extra horsepower of the E46 pretty much makes it untouchable with an equal driver.



I have an RS Barn stage II chip, Stahl header, air box mod, M030 bars, M030 coilovers, and both upper and lower chassis braces. Oh yeah, I have roll bar stiffening the chassis as well.



Those PTG cars were the bomb. The guy who owned the shop that did the inspection on my 944 N/A racecar had one. Very COOL.

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[ds968]

Not sure what to say - if it was just one of them you could chalk it up to a countless number of variables that could come into play but there were several .. one thing I have learned though is that "published" stats do not always translate to real life as they should - I have been easily beaten by cars which on paper should not even be in the same league as the 968, and outran others which conversely the 968 should not be able to beat even on its best day .

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