[ds968]

Yes folks you are reading this correctly ; I have reached 30 years without a speeding ticket ; my last one was in July of 1987 ( driving a 944 at the time ) . And I haven't even used a radar detector more than two or three times in probably five years . Those of you who know my driving " habits " might be in shock and disbelief , but I'm rather proud of this record.


I did get two moving violations in that span of time, both of which I challenged in court , and won . One was having the front wheels past the pedestrian crossing painted line, while stopped briefly waiting to turn right at an intersection ( with no pedestrians anywhere in sight ..) The other was crossing over a portion of that diagonal white lines triangle, at the beginning of a highway exit . Clearly I have an issue with painted lines, lol. But as I said, both violations were dismissed .


However, no speeding tickets !


Oh, and for a full disclosure : I never speed on city streets . Highways or freeways are an entirely different story :-)

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[968Syncro]

Very good Dan!  Can I share in the triumph?   Since I have never gotten a speeding ticket, in over 40 years. 

 

Only moving violation was coasting through a stop sign for a right turn.  As a matter of fact, the road turns right only, there is no straight place to go, no left place to go, and a very wide street corner built for future expansion, I guess they have a stop sign since you can't see well what is around the right turn corner.     Immediately after the turn is a cop car parked on the right, flagging me down.  I got to talking to the cop, because it seemed really unfair to me, no other cars in sight.  He said he and his fellow police officers park there when they have nothing better to do and just snag offenders to up their quota.   Your tax dollars at work creating no value and sucking up more dollars for da guvmint.

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[Kim]

Here in Nova Scotia that is called a rolling stop.

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[Rap]

I used to collect them like baseball cards. Can't imagine what it's like to have never had one!

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[MCL968]

I'm with RAP. In my youth the local CHP officer knew me by name and practically had my CDL# memorized (we actually used to joke about that).

 

But that was then. The 2.0 version of me drives well within the law (usually) and well within the capabilities of my vehicle. 

 

Last time was over 20 years ago, and the ticketing officer was a former and future student. He was so glad to see me and tell me that he was about to come back and finish his degree. I still got the ticket, and he got a funny story to tell the other cops.

 

Small town problems.

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[jimham968]

I'm also with Rap. I think I have enough fingers to count them without resorting to toes but it's close. My best was clocked by airplane in Ohio in the late seventies. Didn't cost me any more than a regular cop car ticket but it must have cost Ohio lots more to give it to me. Back in the days of the 55 mph national speed limit. Dark times!

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[tejon007]

"How players deal with a no-hitter in progress is unequivocal. Shut up, never mention it and stay the hell away from the pitcher." -- Jason Turbow

 

...So, I'm not sure we should continue this subject, it might be like a no-hitter.  And now I'm going to drive very carefully the rest of this week.

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[Chris Vais]

I've only had one speeding ticket and that was in June 1968, 49 years ago. Got pulled over for drag racing. I've been driving high performance cars from day one. I just make it a point to not be the fastest guy out there.

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[Bulti]

30 years without a speeding ticket? Amazing. Even more is just absurd.


The problem I got over here is that half the time I don't even know what the legal limit IS! The speedlimit seems to change every 20 meters. If you keep track of all the signs that instruct one to do this or forbid to do that, it is impossible to watch the road anymore.


Outright dangerous :-))

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[Rap]

Don't you just love big government? Don't you feel safer?

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[968Syncro]

Also, remember that in California the CHP is not allowed to use radar traps on the freeways.  So cranking it up on occasion is lower risk than in other states.

 

Question, on another note:  what is the average speed that people drive on freeways in your region?   It seems a bit unusual around here, people drive 80 MPH (130 km/h) regularly, the entire freeway flows at 80 mph (when 65 mph is posted), some a bit faster, I need to hit 90 on occasion to get ahead of the pack .   Did something change in our country, have the authorities discovered that almost all the cars are now safe at this speed?

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[ds968]

Easily 80 mph. It never ceases to amaze me how many people drive at insane speeds around here ( 100 mph + is a very common, daily occurrence ) and it's not the folks with cars fully capable of doing that safely , it's all the other pieces of crap cars whose drivers feel they have nothing to lose ...

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[Bulti]

No radar traps on freeways?? Lol. Why is that?

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[Rap]

Posted speeds of 65 and especially 70 have moved most speeds up to 80ish here in Pa. it is often dangerous to drive the posted limit as everyone is whizzing by you.

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[lbpesq]

For many years in California, the CHP was not allowed to use radar due to the strong truckers lobby. That changed around the turn of the century. That is different from "speed traps" which are barred everywhere in the state. No police department can employ speed traps. A speed trap is where your car is timed over a preset distance. As absurd as it sounds, when enforcing speed with aircraft, the cop in the plane is not allowed to time the car through a set measured distance, such as two markers, a mile apart. But the plane is allowed to pace the car while timing itself, the plane, between the two markers! On local roads a speed trap is any use of radar without a prior traffic survey justifying the speed limit. The survey must conform with certain requirements. I've beaten many a radar ticket based on an inadequate survey.


Bill

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[Rap]

Would that be typical in most states counselor?

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[MCL968]

And here we have the other side of the coin:

 

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/07/25/7...-head.html

 

Philippe, is this a friend of yours?

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[94SilverCab]

Would that be typical in most states counselor?

 

In our state (Pennsylvania), local constabulary are not allowed to use radar, only State Police. Locals use VASCAR, or some similar system.

 

Jay

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[Bulti]

Thanks for the explanation Bill. Using planes to hand out speeding tickets? I sure hope there's a discount on the kerosine, lol.

Over here all camera's -either using radar, infra-red or with magnetic loops under the road surface- should be gauged. But there's little or no chance they aren't. No surveys. If the sign is there, the speed limit is justified, no matter how absurd they can be.


MCL: I wish, so I could loan her car for a while :-). She can't complain, only 6 weeks no drivers' licence and a fine, the other 6 are a little 'extra' for when she thinks about making the same mistake twice. If I'm correct, in most of the US, such a traffic violation means jail time, or doesn't it?


Still find it strange what argument a lobby or any other group could use against the use of radar. Unless it's not accurate. But that is what gauging is for I guess.

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[lbpesq]

I really can't answer for other states. Regarding our "Speed Enforced By Aircraft" tickets, at least I have the satisfaction of knowing that when I fight one of these I pull two cops off the road, as both the pilot and the ground car cop have to show up in court. The cop in the plane can testify the car was speeding, but has no personal knowledge the defendant was driving. The cop on the ground can testify the defendant was behind the wheel, but has no personal knowledge they were speeding. If a cop doesn't show up in court, (a VERY common occurrence - in some counties the odds of the cop showing are only about 50/50!), the case is dismissed.


When I first started dating my wife, she had recently received a radar speeding ticket. I really wanted to impress her. I obtained the traffic survey and had all my caselaw ready for argument. I knew she would be impressed at my display of ultimate lawyering as I would tear the cop to pieces! I was loaded for bear as we entered the courtroom, only to discover that the cop didn't show up and the case was dismissed without my uttering a word. I was actually disappointed.

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