[94SilverCab]

I have gotten one ticket in the last 10 years, in the VolvoS60...none in the 968...



Jay

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[Rap]

One might say that you are blessed by the " ticket God" ! Or else just darn lucky!

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[tamathumper]

Knock on wood, quick!

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[ds968]

Last speeding ticket was in 1987 ( in the 944 ) . Talk about luck, LOL !

Since then, only one other ticket : stopped with front of car slightly into / over the crosswalk line, even though I was preparing to make a perfectly legal right hand turn at the intersection, and there were no pedestrians anywhere in sight . I was very polite to the officer, yet the a-hole must have had a really bad day because he still gave me a ticket ; for what is no doubt a b.s. violation ! But there was karma at play : went to court to contest it and was delighted to see the judge ( lady judge ) telling the cop that if he ever walks into her courtroom again trying to stand by that kind of nonsense, and " wasting the court's time " , she will make him and the police department department " regret it ".

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[Rap]

There is justice!

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[AJG]

[quote name='Rap' timestamp='1338030739' post='127417']

I think if you've got a rockin set of boobs well displayed and and great set of gams that leave nothing to the imagination tickets are unlikely!

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Eh! Are you lookin at me moobs!

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[tamathumper]

Not anymore,... <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.png" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[rhudeboye]

I feel that VA and NC has the most active traffic enforcement in the nation. Every time I travel to or through those states, I see a dozen cars pulled over and speed traps every 5 miles. And in certain parts of VA, court is mandatory! So if your out of state, you have to come back to make your court date.

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[ds968]

I was reading about VA holding that dubious honor , not too long ago... Insane ! Speaking of court .. In some CA counties , I hear they automatically add " court costs " to ALL moving violations, whether they require you to go to court or not. Some of those costs can be a couple of hundred dollars..

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[ds968]

this will cost some dough....

[size="3"][color="#000000"]ROSENDALE, N.Y. (AP) — Authorities say a 28-year-old man in [/color][color="#366388"]upstate New York[/color][color="#000000"] has been charged with driving his motorcycle at nearly 200 mph on a highway in the rain.[/color][/size]

[size="3"][color="#366388"]State police[/color][color="#000000"] say a trooper clocked [/color][color="#366388"]Anthony Anderson[/color][color="#000000"] of Poughkeepsie driving at 193 mph around 8 p.m. Wednesday in the southbound lanes of Interstate 87 just south of Albany — the same stretch of road where another motorcyclist was spotted doing 166 mph earlier this month.[/color][/size]

[size="3"][color="#000000"]The trooper was able to get a description of the high-performance bike and alerted nearby patrols.[/color][/size]

[size="3"][color="#000000"]Troopers eventually stopped Anderson in the town of Rosendale. He told them he was headed to a hospital to visit a patient.[/color][/size]

[size="3"][color="#000000"]Anderson was issued 14 traffic tickets, including one for speeding.[/color][/size]

[size="3"][color="#000000"]It couldn't be immediately determined if he had a lawyer.[/color][/size]

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[94SilverCab]

So far, he's out on $1,500 bond...I think he's going to need to break the piggy bank for this one...



Jay

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[Chris Vais]

I think, in California and certainly the town I live in, that the level of enforcement is way up. The State and most California cities are so desperate for additional revenue that they have decided to impose this "road tax" on unwary drivers. In the town where I live almost every signal controlled intersection has red light cameras installed, wired up and ready to go. The issue of whether they can or cannot legally do that, I guess, is still before the courts. I saw a CHP cruiser the other day that was parked off to the side of the freeway concealed in the roadside shrubbery to try and catch the unwary. He pounced on a speeding Prius, so there is some justice in the world I guess, as the Prius was tailgating me at 70 mph before he decided that 70 wasn't fast enough.

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[flash]

i hate the whole "big brother" concept, but i certainly hope they approve those cameras. i am so sick and tired of red light runners. it's far worse here in socal than it was in norcal when i lived there. i've gotten creamed by them twice in the last couple of years. this whole idea that you can creep out and stop in an intersection while making a left turn (illegal) or that you should enter the intersection after it has turned yellow, or that when it turns red, 3 more cars can go (illegal), has to end. yellow means prepare to stop, not "step on it", not "get out there so you're in possession and others with a green light then have to wait for you to get the hell out of the way", and red means stop.



if you think that you cannot make it completely through the intersection prior to the light turning red, you don't begin entry. it's really that simple. i don't care if it means that you have to wait 12 cycles of the light. the answer is not to break the law and create a hazard. the answer is to contact your city and get them to install a controlled left light.



cameras work. we have a bunch of them, and while people moan and groan about not being able to turn left, the accident rates have gone down.



i think we should take a further step and make these kinds of violations fall on the head of the owner, regardless of who is driving (unless it is stolen). that way, the cameras tickets would not be taken into court, and would be automatically charged, and would reduce the costs. it would then put more pressure on the owner to obey the law. let the owner deal with whomever drove their car and broke the law. there is already a precedent for this on the toll roads. it doesn't matter who is driving the car, the ticket goes to the owner. it means a presumption of guilt, but in reality we already have that anyway, but we burdon the courts with people who think they can get out of them



as for speeding tickets, the last time i got nailed speeding, i noticed the cop was ALSO speeding

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[Lear35A]

[quote name='flash' timestamp='1338497126' post='127647']cameras work. we have a bunch of them, and while people moan and groan about not being able to turn left, the accident rates have gone down.[/quote]

Citation, please regarding accident rates. I have heard exactly the opposite. Not to mention the problem of cities intentionally DECREASING the yellow light cycle to INCREASE ticket revenue.

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[bombfactory]

The easiest way to make intersections safer would be to lengthen the interval between when a light turns red, and when the next green comes on (going the other direction). It would only take a one or two second additional delay - which I think we all can live with - and accidents caused by red light runners would be greatly lessened. Implementing this would cost next to nothing.



But no, we've got to go and install Big Brother red light cams everywhere that cost us taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars per intersection which, aside from their dubious legality, cause rear-ender accidents when people panic in front of yellow lights - because there are cameras and hefty fines involved - and slam on their brakes. Sure, less serious by far than a t-bone intersection crash, but still far from good solution to the problem.



As for left turns - let's just say I'm with Adam Carolla on this one.

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[flash]

ultimately people would figure out the increased gap, and only pile more cars up in the intersection waiting to turn.



the better answer would be to trigger the cameras earlier, before the yellow, and then catch those who rush the light. enforcing the yellow as a "prepare to stop" and not a "hurry and get through" is the key. the pedal to step on when you see a yellow is not the one on the right.



lear - there are plenty of sources of information out there. a lot of it gets confused though by the misapplication of rer-ender accidents with real collisions. head on collisions, which result in far more injuries, are dramatically reduced. minor rear end bumps went up. this though is due to negligence, not the camera. if people were actually paying attention, obeying the law, and not trying to cram into the intersection when they are not supposed to, they would not smack into the car in front of them. people following too closely is not a reason to eliminate a device which successfully reduces higher risk accidents.



if you look at the actual data, and ignore the lobbyists, you'll find it to be true. you can probably get statistics from your insurance company.

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[Langley968]

" this whole idea that you can creep out and stop in an intersection while making a left turn (illegal) or that you should enter the intersection after it has turned yellow, or that when it turns red, 3 more cars can go (illegal), has to end. yellow means prepare to stop, not "step on it", not "get out there so you're in possession and others with a green light then have to wait for you to get the hell out of the way", and red means stop."



Interesting...

We always like to refer to certain countries as being "third world". Yet when I was in Recife, Brazil a few months back I noticed something that I would LOVE to see implemented in my area.

NO LEFT turns allowed ANYWHERE at intersections. Large placards above the intersections show that if you want to go left, you proceed one block ahead, turn right, turn right, turn right and then proceed through the intersection to where you want to go! Simple and effective! That way you NEVER have cars waiting in the center lane trying to turn, while holding up traffic behind them.

All intersections also had either a numerical countdown to show how many seconds were left before the light would turn yellow OR a color light bar (reminded me of the F1 "start" lights) that starts decreasing as the light is about to change. That way everyone is warned well in advance and no one has to try and "beat the light". I noticed a remarkable improvement in traffic flow from years back, even though there are WAY MORE cars on the road these days!

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[flash]

lol - i've long said that it's always faster to make three rights tan one left



i love the countdown idea. ironically we have that for pedestrians, but not for cars. i guess that's because pedestrians cause so much more damage when they go past their allotted time and smack into something than do cars. go figure

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[Chris Vais]

It is interesting to note that the red light cams are not owned by the City, rather they are provided by a "service" that handles sending out the citations and collecting the money with a cut going to the City. I support red light cams on busy intersections on main thoroughfares, but on quiet residential streets, it seems more like a money grad to me. I read somewhere that once a community wises up to the red light cams and start obeying the law, the "service provider" starts to loose money and eventually pulls out of the deal. Putting us right back where we started. I do agree with Flash that people who bust red lights should be aggressively prosecuted. A friend of mine was killed in an intersection by a red light runner. Former pilot, 2 combat tours in Vietnam, killed by a 17 year old in an SUV that ran a red light.

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[flash]

yeah - we should not allow the outsourcing of those.

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