[rhudeboye]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...p;rd=1&rd=1



I’m looking to update the cockpit with some chrome trim dials, stitched leather shift boot and a nice MOMO leather and chrome knob. Of course this means swapping out the stock narrow shifter. I came across this one on ebay and was wondering if anyone was able to give their thoughts on it.



Thanx

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[JWahlsten]

I just did it last weekend. What would you like to know?



The throws don't seem significantly shorter, but the shifting is much more precise. There used to be a spongy feeling going side to side and back and forth, and that is gone. Mine isn't completely broken in yet. It is still a bit stiff side to side through the gates. In fact, you can feel each detent as you move the lever side to side, and it doesn't spring back to center like it used to yet.



Installing isn't too difficult. If you have any questions, let me know. I live just up the road in Dover...



Of course you do realize this has nothing to do with your shift lever don't you? The part shown is installed on the transmission, and is called the intermediate shift lever. The forward shift lever is a separate part.

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[doster]

rs barn sells these give pete a call <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[rhudeboye]

[quote name='JWahlsten' post='29516' date='Dec 31 2006, 10:27 AM']Of course you do realize this has nothing to do with your shift lever don't you?[/quote]



Well of course I knew that, ha ha (nervous laugh) What type of ninconpoop mistakes that linkage thingy for a short shifter.. ha ha <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/unsure.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[JWahlsten]

[quote name='rhudeboye' post='29522' date='Dec 31 2006, 08:09 PM']Well of course I knew that, ha ha (nervous laugh) What type of ninconpoop mistakes that linkage thingy for a short shifter.. ha ha <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/unsure.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />[/quote]





Jusk checking... <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> I figured you knew what was going on after all your tranny problems.



The new avatar is great.

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[Jason Judd]

Before RS Barn was around, I bought the Kokeln unit...have enjoyed it since.



Jason

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[Mark]

I have the Kokeln in one of ours (I ordered it before I bought the car <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> ) and while it cleans up the slop i don't think it shortens the throw. What's your opinion Jason?

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[Jason Judd]

Mark,



I believe that it does shorten the shifting throws.



Jason

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[Fox944]

these shift blocks dont shorten the throw imo. They make the shifts a lot crisper and more accurate however. I have one in my car.

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[rhudeboye]

Funny that this post was resurrected after I just did a search for it yesterday to get the cost in my link.



Spoke w/ Pete’s tech yesterday, who has both installed them and driven with them. Always best to hear from someone w/ both hands on experience as well as a mechanical background to explain what you’re gaining.



In a nut shell-

Our orig shifter blocks are rubber and plastic (did he say plastic) Anyhoo, its an inferior material. Over time it wears, and the result is a lack of firmness both while changing gears and even when in gear. This block is aluminum; allowing it to take much more abuse and of course bringing back the crispness in your shifts. Or as stated by Joel and mark “it cleans up the slop and spongy feeling”.



The add does mention that it shortens the throw. But Judging by comments of ones who have it installed, I wont be looking for it.



Buying mine from good ol RSB today.

http://www.rsbarn.com/images/ShiftingBlock_800.jpg





David

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[flash]

yup - no throw change, but it does tighten things up - unfortunately i can't run one - i have the short shift kit, and it would make for too much resistance in the linkage, and my shifts would be heavy - lol - a mod i can't do - go figure

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[Anchorman]

Possibly later this week I'll have my car at RSBarn and one of the items will be to adjust the shift block in some way or undo the mod. The 5/6 area is much too tight, and the lever no longer "self-centers" at the 3/4 line, making downshifting (like 5th or 6th to 4th) much more awkward as I have to pull the lever to the center. So far, by my measures, the losses outweigh the gains. However, I'm hoping that there are adjustments that will put things right.

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[rhudeboye]

[quote name='Anchorman' post='37717' date='Jul 2 2007, 07:52 AM']Possibly later this week I'll have my car at RSBarn and one of the items will be to adjust the shift block in some way or undo the mod. The 5/6 area is much too tight, and the lever no longer "self-centers" at the 3/4 line, making downshifting (like 5th or 6th to 4th) much more awkward as I have to pull the lever to the center. So far, by my measures, the losses outweigh the gains. However, I'm hoping that there are adjustments that will put things right.[/quote]



How many have found this to be the case. The not centering is what has held me back before. If its a matter of a break-in period, how long?

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[PorscheDude]

[quote name='rhudeboye' post='37722' date='Jul 2 2007, 12:36 PM']How many have found this to be the case. The not centering is what has held me back before. If its a matter of a break-in period, how long?[/quote]







It is a matter of proper adjustment. I believe the shift handle should be angled reward by 85.



The last picture shows the adjutment for a 968.







http://clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/trans-07.htm

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[JWahlsten]

Mine is centered, just a bit on the stiff side. I plan on taking it out and running an emory cloth on it this weekend. Then I'll put a much thinner grease than I used the first time. Hopefully, this will cure the stiffness.



I has loosened up a little, but still feels somewhat notchy.

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[Anchorman]

I'm told that "notchy" is the way it will feel - almost like shift gates. I wouldn't mind that, it's the stiffness that is not acceptable. I'll be taking a similar approach - maybe even drilling out to make the fit a little less tight - and seeing if that ends up with an acceptable result.

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[JWahlsten]

If you're going to enlarge the hole, be gentle. If you enlarge it too much you'll have the slop you were trying to get rid of...Mine springs back to center from the 5-6 gate, but won't return to the 3-4 gate from the 1-2 gate. It is slowly getting better, but my patience is has run out. So, I'll try the polishing trick before drastic measures.



I actually like the gated feel, but I couldn't think of any way to describe it other than a bit notchy.

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[rhudeboye]

would the orig piece from porsche be a good solution? Im thinking the stiffness will return and lat for another 10yrs.

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[JWahlsten]

I haven't driven a "new" 968 so wouldn't know about that.



I did like the Autothority design with the heim joint used for the 944 for chift accuracy and feel much better. The 968 has a different adjustment mechanism across the top of the tranny though.



I pulled mine out this weekend, and found the assembly to be free of binding. However, when installed it still binds some in the horizontal plane. So, it's not what I thought it was...Any ideas?



I have a new shift rod and bushings in my toolbox. I'm thinking of trying that with the old intermediate shift assembly on the transmission.

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[rhudeboye]

[quote name='JWahlsten' post='37957' date='Jul 7 2007, 06:50 AM']I haven't driven a "new" 968 so wouldn't know about that.[/quote]



What I mean is can a person buy the original porsche part. The shift block made of plastic and replace the old one.



As I understand it the problem with the "slop" comes with age/wear of the piece. If the part is still available then I would assume that it would put the crispness back in the shifts.

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