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Has anyone upgraded to Xenons/HIDs?
#21

Flash, I think we're seeing the next mod you can come up with for us. A fixed headlight fender design that incorporates a proper headlight. Put me down for the first edition. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#22

well..............



i just found the non projector lights for the denali - going to order them and finally get rid of that crap
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#23

hop behind the wheels of an M45... I bet you'd find things very different than your denali.



Something else to consider is the bulb being used... be it a D1s, D2s, or D4s. There's a huge difference in the CRI of the bulb, the color temp they output at, etc.



D2S bulbs are definitely the most common, but they don't do as well compared to the other two bulbs when it comes to how they interact with the human eye. I believe the new lexus vehicles are the most common users of the D4S bulbs... D1S is becoming all but non existent any more.



The denali is certainly not a car that I would consider one with good HID's.



Stanley makes the best projectors out there at the moment... generally found on S2000's, TSX's, TL's, SC430's, etc. The FX35/45 has a very nice bixenon projector, but things are very difference in this regard when you get so far off the floor.



If/when I were to make some projector headlights for my 968, I would most likely be using FX35/45 parts.



The M45 projectors to run a bit more yellow than the other projectors. Could be a result of the bulb mounting in the projector at an angle(yes, the position of the bulb changes the color). It also doesn't have a razor sharp cut off, or lots of color at the cut off(something a lot of people like, but I imagine you would not).





The fact that you describe one of your dislikes of projectors as the scattered pattern really shows me that you haven't been behind the wheel of a good set up. A proper projector will provide a very wide beam, with a VERY even distribution of light. That is the real benefit here.





Also worth noting... GM does have a 6000k bulb that they use in some of their hid applications. Why, I don't know, but they're out there. I do not know what bulb the denali uses, or what the kelvin temp on it is, but find the part number off the bulb and I'd be happy to look it up.
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#24

i will go drive one in the next few days



i have no doubt that gm did not use good lights - i am taking a hammer to these as soon as the new ones are in



i haven't done a lot of research into the construction yet, but have driven a few cars with them, so i can't speak to the specific differences in design or implementation - i can speak to the things that affect the human eye, and how different light does what



the wide pattern however, is something i do not want - i want a very tight narrow pattern - i want to reduce the amount of peripheral light - peripheral light increases glare, increases the reaction time of the pupil, and reduces the ability of the eye to make distinction in color



the pattern of the denali is determined by the fluted lens in the front - it makes a sort of "bat-signal" pattern - makes me crazy - i haven't torn it apart yet - is the bulb permanently attached to that lens?



in a perfect world, i might be looking through tunnels that extended out a few feet in front of the car, completely blocking off any entry of light from the sides



i think a lot of what is driving the HID craze is poor driver training - drivers are not taught to look ahead as far as they can see, and rely on their brain to automatically see what is immediately in front of them - it does if you let it, a lot like speed reading and seeing the whole page at once, rather than a word at a time - instead they are focused about 50 feet in front of them - this causes them to want more light - heck, most drivers aren't taught at night at all



if you ever did an off-road rally, you would quickly understand what i am talking about - what is immediately in front of you, or to the sides, is of no interest - you get that information automatically - what is 2-3 seconds in front of you, however, is of interest (about 200 ft)
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#25

It would not be very difficult to modify your lights to reduce the width of the beam if that's what you so desire.



Fluted lenses and projectors should not go together... projectors are meant to be used without a fluted lens(with the exception of some fog lights, but that's an entirely different discussion).





The bulb should come out... it is not permanently attached.







If you're using a projector based headlight, there is no need to make some tunnels coming off the front of the headlight... it's very easy to do internally.
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Has anyone upgraded the headlight bulbs?  Internet shows this is a 9003/H4 bulb?  I would like to get the CRI higher (aka less yellow) if possible.  Thanks!

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