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Saggy Butt on Acceleration
#1

Flash and Bandit had both noted that under thrust my car seem to get down on it's haunches too much. I have new Konis and coil-overs (front only). What are the recommendations for helper springs in the the rear? 60lbs? Adapter thingy to stop the springs from flailing when the wheel drops. I know all this is available as a package (maybe Paragon?) but now that I want to address this separately maybe there is a better path?
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#2

well, that's what happens when you add 75 lb/ft



unfortunately the shocks you have now will do you no good there, and you will have to change them to a coilover type, unless you want to change your torsion bars.



NOBODY makes a direct fit coilover shock that will not require either additional parts to prevent spring drop during wheel drop, or reindexing of the torsion bars.



by the way, there is a better plan. it's in my car, mrmister's car, and ds968's car. ring me up and i can fill you in.
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#3

DaveN, I noticed the same thing on the fun run. When you came on the gas, the rear squatted down noticeably, and I fear mine is doing the same thing now.
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Tks Flash, I'll give you a ring in the next few days.

Tama - I'm thinking about a bulk buy on hockey pucks for the rear, if placed just so ..... <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.png" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#5

and thus begins the slippery slope
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#6

I've complained about my squatty rear end before too, and my car is merely NA. Is it just near 20 year old torsion bars not having the resilience they once had?
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#7

So Flash I'm not done yet?
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#8

the suspension on the 968 is inherently soft. that's because it's a GT and not a sportscar. if you add power, the rear will squat more. if you add rear tire, the rear will squat more.



also realize that the front has an effect on the rear. a stiffer front suspension will push the rear down more under acceleration, because it is pushing up more.



rap - lol - you knew that, right?



the good news is that you don't have to give up ride quality to get better handling. anybody who has been in any of the 3 above mentioned cars will know that. the key is not going gas in the rear. there are a couple of options for the front, depending on what you want.
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#9

Too late, I've had gas in the rear for years. Now what do I do about the sagging?
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"the suspension on the 968 is inherently soft"





Tell that to the buns of an M 030 driver after 2400 miles. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/glare.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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lol - fair enough. wasn't really thinking about the M030 cars. another reason not to go gas though.
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#13

I wish there was a way to convert the Koni (yellow) adjustable rear shocks to a coilover set-up. Some sort of adapter with

hat and springs.
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#14

why? those shocks really aren't very good. for the money, they are "ok", but they really don't ride all that well. it would be better if they had adjustable compression, and/or more adjustment. the limited number of positions, coupled with fixed compression, really makes them a huge compromise.



there is a much better shock out there, that is all set for coils. it's just more expensive
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#15

So, what is this better option?
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i am putting together the list so others can go out and get them. the only thing that is not off the shelf is the upper bushing.



the other issue is that these shocks don't work as a stand alone coilover without modifying the upper mount location. they work great though as an addition to the torsion bars.



you can expect to spend a little over a grand to get the entire setup (shocks, bushings, adaptors, bearings, coils, couplers, helpers).
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#17

Sheesh, that's $500 per cheek!
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#18

yup - about the same as anything decent for the front
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#19

If you guys think that's bad, take a peek at the price of a set of Moton Clubsprots.
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#20

I haven't driven enough 968's to have a reference but I have no doubt that there are better set-ups than the Koni adjustables.

I'm all ears to something better.
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