[midblu]

Recently this information was sent to me and I thought I would share with the group......



WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE.



The Saudis have been boycotting many American products for years.



Shouldn't we return the favor? Can't we take control of our own destiny and let these giant oil importers know who REALLY generates their profits, their livings? How about leaving American Dollars in America and reduce the import/export deficit?



As a possible remedy how about we boycott their GAS? Every time you fill up your car you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just purchase gas from companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.



Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time we fill up our tanks, we're sending money to people who I get the impression want me, my family and my friends dead. It might be of interest to know which oil companies import Middle Eastern oil and which do not?



These companies import Middle Eastern oil:



Shell................................... 205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco.................. 144,332,000 barrels

Exxon /Mobil....................... 130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway............. 117,740,000 barrels

Amoco................................ 62,231,000 barrels



CITGO oil is imported from Venezuela by Dictator Hugo Chavez who hates America. (Americans pay Chavez's regime nearly $10 Billion per year in oil revenues!)



The U.S. currently imports 5,517,000 barrels of crude oil per day from OPEC. If you do the math at $136 per barrel, that's over $750 million PER DAY ($273 billon per year) handed over to OPEC, many of whose members are our confirmed enemies.



Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Sunoco....................... 0 barrels

Conoco .................... 0 barrels

Sinclair....................... 0 barrels

BP / Phillips................ 0 barrels

Hess. ........................ 0 barrels

ARC0.......................... 0 barrels

Maverick...................... 0 barrels

Flying J. .................... 0 barrels

Valero........................ 0 barrels



Until I read this and did a little of my own research I was a Chevron junkie. Here on the West Coast I have switched to ARCO.



Something to think about the next time you fill-up.



Ron

94 coupe/6 speed

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[PorscheDude]

Thanks, I have been using hess and sunoco because they are convenient for me. I fell better knowing that my money does not go to the Arabs.



Question?

Where do the others get their oil?

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[Gotter]

[quote name='midblu' post='54659' date='Jun 12 2008, 04:52 PM']Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Sunoco....................... 0 barrels

Conoco .................... 0 barrels

Sinclair....................... 0 barrels

BP / Phillips................ 0 barrels

Hess. ........................ 0 barrels

ARC0.......................... 0 barrels

Maverick...................... 0 barrels

Flying J. .................... 0 barrels

Valero........................ 0 barrels[/quote]



Very good information to have, INDEED! Thank you! I will be changing my fuel habits.

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[flash]

since i generally use 76, that's phillips, so i'm good



wonder who costco gets theirs from?

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[ds968]

76 would be the only choice for me around this area.. I'd have to drive around for an hour to find one ARCO or a Valero .. the rest of them I've never even seen within a 100 mile radius. damn, I sure as hell hate contributing to the wealth of a buch of b******s who already have more money than they can count, and are still looking to bite the hand that feeds them every chance they get. arrgh <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/mad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[968crazy]

BP's in PA sell only AMOCO gas at there pumps.

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[waikiki968]

I have a close friend who is employed by Chevron. Here's what he has to say:

"Interesting thing is now that I work for Chevron and have had to take a few basic courses about their business, that they are not supposed to be importing any Mid East Oil at all. They have their fields in Australia, Angola, Nigeria, Kazhastan (I'd have to look at the doc to see if there are any others, maybe a couple, but I was surprised that none of it was in the Mid East).



Of course I think eventually what goes to a gas station could come from anywhere, cause when they run out or need some, the oil companies make deliveries to each other, just as banks ;end out each day on the short term. So what eventually ends up at any company could come from Exxon, or Valero, or wherever."



Food (or fuel) for thought.

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[Lord_Galva]

What gas does the Costco carry?

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[Mark]

Snopes is your friend http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp

While not based on the exact same email it's close enough to say don't beleive everything you read on the internet. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

Although the message quoted above doesn't address where (outside of the Middle East) we import oil from, many people come away from reading it with the mistaken impression that most of the USA's crude oil is imported from the Middle East. It isn't. According to some recent figures regarding crude oil imports, in December 2007 only 23% of the USA's crude oil imports came from countries classified by the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) as Persian Gulf exporters (i.e., Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain). The top six countries (by percentage of total USA imports) supplying crude oil to the USA in December 2007 were:



Canada: 18.0%

Saudi Arabia: 17.0%

Venezuela: 12.7%

Mexico: 12.6%

Nigeria: 12.3%

Angola: 4.5%



Moving along, we find that nearly all of the statistics offered in the piece quoted above are erroneous or outdated:



Top 4 companies that import middle eastern oil



Shell 205,742,000 barrels of oil

Chevron/Texaco 144,332,000

Exxon/Mobil 130,082,000

Marathon 117,740,000



This information is quite outdated. In 2007, the top four companies importing oil from the Persian Gulf were as follows (figures given in barrels):



Motiva Enterprises: 160,876,000

Exxon/Mobil: 155,181,000

Valero: 153,519,000

Marathon: 64,134,000



Here are some large companies that do not import much Middle Eastern oil:



Citgo 0 barrels of oil

Sunoco 0

Conoco 0

Sinclair 0

Phillips 0



Some of these numbers were inaccurate to begin with, and consolidation in the oil industry has since wiped out some of the true zero figures as non-importing companies merged with (or were acquired by) importing companies. According to the DoE, in 2007 the above-listed companies imported oil from Persian Gulf countries in the following quantities (figures given in barrels):



Citgo: 949,000

Sunoco: 0

ConocoPhillips: 22,992,000

Sinclair: 0

BP North America: 34,099,000

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[ds968]

still, other than canada and mexico the rest are ( for the most part ) nations inclined to hostility toward US.



but, there is fair trade idea :



OPEC sells oil for $136.00 a barrel.

OPEC nations buy U.S. grain at $7.00 a bushel.

Solution: Sell grain for $136.00 a bushel.

Too much ? Can't buy i t? Tough! Eat your oil. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[flash]

keep the grain - make hooch - drink hooch - get hammered - forget all about the oil

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[RPM]

Was headed to Snopes myself before I got to Mark's post. Usually stuff like this is bogus, based on a thin thread of truth.



I do avoid Citgo because of Chavez, but otherwise I go for cost/trust.



Recently found a BP station in Cary, NC that has 100 oct racing fuel - I don't care where it comes from!

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[banditsc]

Usually the gas comes from one source and then the individual companies additives are added to the trucks when they fill up at the depots. This all depends on where you are in the country though. If your close to a port where the different companies have depots then they are most likely getting there fuel from there. For Costco the last I heard they had a contract with BP, the only difference is it doesn't have any of the BP additives in the fuel, it actually has none. But again that all depends on where in the country the Costcos is.



I have always used Costco and never had any issues. They have 87 and 93 here.

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[rxter]

No politics huh?



I'd bet it would be very difficult to understand where the oil really comes from. I don't imagine that any gasoline distributer would every take delivery of a differently branded fuel...



Another theory that I have heard is that we should drink all of that stuff up as fast as we can so as to make the current geopolitical powerbase irrelevant. Anyone been to Drake's Creek or Spindletop recently?

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[banditsc]

The fuel is all really the same it's the additives that the different companies use that make them different. That is what allows for fuel depots to sell to different companies, the BP tanker drives up with BP additives in the tanker and the generic fuel is added and you now have a BP blend.



Head here and scroll down to the "From Refinery to Consumer" section it has a nice graphic and explanation. http://www.eia.doe.gov/bookshelf/brochures...line/index.html

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[rxter]

Allright dien.



   

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[ds968]

[quote name='banditsc' post='54711' date='Jun 13 2008, 10:02 AM']I have always used Costco and never had any issues. They have 87 and 93 here.[/quote]



Wait, what, HUH ?! Costco has 93 octane ?! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/huh.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> Whoo-hooo - I'm never buying gas anywhere else !

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[banditsc]

[quote name='ds968' post='54755' date='Jun 13 2008, 08:56 PM']Wait, what, HUH ?! Costco has 93 octane ?! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/huh.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> Whoo-hooo - I'm never buying gas anywhere else ![/quote]

They do in my part of the country....

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[Larry Currie]

Is BP's premium the white gas Amoco used to sell?

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[Anchorman]

I will always avoid Citgo (the Venezuelan connection) and Lukoil (the Russian connection). After that, my preferences are for Valero (a semi-major domestic company with good service, locations, and pricing), Costco (when convenient), and Hess.

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