[Kai]

I found a black on black 94 968 for 12,500 that has 110K miles on it, is that too much? It does not have all of its maintainence records, although the engine looks and runs well. The only problem was that the power seats didn't work. I did drive it hard to see if I could make anything fail, it happily responded to my commands. But is 110K miles too much? I would like to use it as my daily driver, and will be trading in my Lexus ES300 for it if.

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[BruceWard]

Maintenance is the issue not mileage



See this http://65.61.16.109/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11206 for some recent comments

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[bob blackwell]

Not at all, Kai! My 1993 968 Coupe has over 113K on it after the recent trip to Washington D.C. and it still runs great. Check out the big things which are listed in the archives and give it a try, mine is also my daily driver and I would not even consider selling it for $12,500. At that price you can replace the seats with some very nice Recaros and still have a good deal. Good luck, Bob Blackwell.

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[KensCab]

Kai,



I think you will find a consensus that mileage is not an issue, and not at 110k.

BUT,

I would INSIST on a PPI, it may cost you $100-150 but it will be some of the best money you will ever spend. It sure was for me when I was 'looking'.



Not sure where you are and the car is but if you get serious ask for a local PPI reference and I am certain someone here would be more than happy to help you out.

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[Greimann]

Look at it this way, that is an average of about 10k miles per year. Below the average commute type of driving. A car that has been driven regularly is better off in many ways than one that has been stored and ignored.

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[Kai]

Cool, well I definately have a PPI planned. Its all a matter of whether or not I can get a loan, plus I still owe around 13 on my lexus. So, its just a big debacle right now. The total after trade in will be around 15K or so, which still isn't bad. I know I can get a co-signer though if thats needed (not bad credit, just not mature credit)



Thanks guys, http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_...sp=y&cardist=14 that is the car, located in Portland OR.



Thanks guys!

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[BruceWard]

Kai, the 968 is likely to have higher running costs than your Lexus. It is easily possible for single repairs to cost $3K to $5K. My record repair consisting of clutch and rebuilding the brakes while doing all the work myself cost about $1200.



If you do not have a suitable reserve to repair the car it could be a very bad daily driver.

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[Larry Currie]

I had a valve job at 137,000 plus other work like the timing belt and Etc. Around $2000, but the lower engine looked good when we inspected it. My shop owner was amazed at how well it looked with that many miles. This is my third Porsche and the up keep cost is going to be more than most other cars, but it is all worth it for the driving pleasure if you have the reserve.

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[Anchorman]

A note re the "suitable reserve" comment. I use my '95 cab, with 120k+ miles on it, as a daily driver, averaging about 2k miles per month. I have no backup transportation. The 968 has been very - make that VERY - reliable. When it has needed repairs (or voluntary upgrades/maintenance), I've had some done at my local OPC (who will either drive me to and pick me up from my office, about five miles away or, for overnight repairs, give me a Cayenne loaner) or at local mechanics where I can drop the car and have a friend to me from and to. However, I'd agree that you need to be prepared for a possible expense in the $2k range at almost anytime. As for the PPI - if you really want to avoid a nasty surprise, make sure they pull the cam cover and inspect the Variocam pads and the camshaft teeth.

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[KensCab]

Kai;

Those look like turbo twist wheels, (17s) could be from a boxster? Not OEM wheels.

You may also check for the Option Codes to see what options the car has...

Look for the Air Compressor, this could cost you as much as $100+.

Also check if the Tool Kit is in it.

Spare/Jack?

...may all seem like small stuff but it does add up...

With the VIN some one could probably do a Check for you.

Negotiable points....



Best of luck!!!!

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[Kai]

[quote name='KensCab' date='Jul 7 2005, 04:26 PM']Kai;

Those look like turbo twist wheels, (17s) could be from a boxster?  Not OEM wheels.

You may also check for the Option Codes to see what options the car has...

Look for the Air Compressor, this could cost you as much as $100+.

Also check if the Tool Kit is in it.

Spare/Jack?

...may all seem like small stuff but it does add up...

With the VIN some one could probably do a Check for you.

Negotiable points....



Best of luck!!!!

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You guys are awesome. I'm glad I registered here. I'll definately look for those items next time I go to see it. I have no idea where the wheels are from, I'll ask, if they know that is. I still havn't found a porsche certified mechanic yet (havn't really looked either). Could someone do a VIN check for me here? That would be awesome. I'm actually getting excited about this hopefully future purchase. I just hope that I don't get dissapointed because something is seriously wrong with it. Monday is my next day off, so I hope that I can find someone to do a PPI on it, and that I can get a loan approval as well (not by then though). On a different note, I drove an Aston Martin DB9 yesterday, it made my Lexus feel like an econobox dammit.

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[Samariter]

Kai,



I am agreeing to everything is said above.



When I was visiting one of the local Porsche Dealer around Dusseldorf I saw a guy trading in his 968. Nothing really to get excited about until I read the mileage:



320.000 Miles (>500.000km) !!! I managed to speak to the owner and the car never ever had a major issue. It was serviced regularly. He had it from new and the car was doing so well that he kept it. Now he wants to have something different and is going for a 997.



An issue with mileage - I don't think so !



take care

Alex

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[Greimann]

Just be sure to research the new buyer info here and on other sites. The pinion bearing being one of the most expensive problems, and the car will still drive just fine. The only telltale is the noise.

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[Kai]

Well, unfortunately it has sold already. I was driving to work today and I noticed a 968 parking on the side of the street close to where I work, and lo and behold, its the one I wanted (one of only like 3 in Portland). I promptly shook my fist at the driver as he was getting out and I drove by. Oh well, I'm sure there will be others, that or a nice 911 or new Cayman S in my future. Only time will tell. Thank you guys for all of your help, I really appreciate it. This community is full of knowledge, and I'm glad that you guys are here.





I'm still sad though, I liked it alot. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/sad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[968 Cab]

Kai, too bad you missed that car. This is what I have learned in looking for/at good used cars. First of all, do a GOOGLE search and get a good "inpection list" or make one up. It might look a little silly to a seller when you arrive and start writing things down / taking notes, but trust me, you will not regret it. Lots of simple things, but a good idea.



If the candidate car pasts muster, be prepared to make an "offer, subject to a PPI at the Certified Porsche Mechanic of your choice - not the sellers either - and if things check out OK, then you buy.



But here's the secret - once you have your own "list" of things to do, plus the PPI report that always comes back with more things that need to be done, you have a powerful negoatiation tool on hand. You know what needs to be done and maybe even $$. Start renogotiating the price or walk away, or if it checks out, buy the car!!



Good luck on the search. A little homework and info is a VERY powerful negotiating tool. You will be amazed at what this can do when closing a deal - private sale or dealer.

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