[94SilverCab]

Ron,



Come on up, make it a weekend, bring Ann along this time. PLenty of good restaurants a sights you didn't get to see in one weekend.



Regards,



Jay

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[SteveC]

I had the same Run Rite experience that Cosimo reports...email feature on web site was useless. Our local independent Porsche shop which has done a great job with our care was not familiar with Run Rite.



I called the 800 number and was able to identify a reasonably close Midas shop. Haven't figured out whether I'd trust them with the 968 yet...probably will go in and see what the vibe is...maybe have them talk to Pete if they're willing. I'm afraid that this is really a mass market item and the techs may not be able to do it right for our cars...at least the induction part.



We'll keep posting and reading on this subject...and you guys who have used it, please keep us posted on your results.



Steve C.



(Coral red metallic)

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[Etnier]

[quote name='cosimo' date='May 25 2006, 09:14 AM']I did call run-rite and they gave me some locations in the DC area including Sears. However, in speaking with a Midas shop I was not convinced they could do a Porsche must less a 968. I really don't want to take it to someone fumbling around try to find the vacuum line. So, I guess it's a trip to RS BArn this summer.

[right][post="21667"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote]You can direct them to the vacuum line near the master cylinder: that's what MY Midas shop used.



And you can point them to the throttle body: they should be cleaning that manually as part of the process.



I did not watch the shop do the work but it's not that complicated. Pete was going to have my regular (non-Run-Rite) mechanics do it, using borrowed equipment and telephoned instructions. Run-Rite qualified techs are trained: it really should be fine.



We may think we own rockets, but this isn't rocket science. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Pete: are you reading this? Can you chime in?

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[Kim]

I did it myself, guys, and there isn't one of you who knows less than I do.

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[Cloud9...68]

I still haven't heard back from Run-Rite, but I did talk to the mechanic who has done a lot of the work and mods on my car, and the shop he works at has something that sounds similar. It's a system made by BG, and the way it works is that they disconnect the fuel pump, and tap into the fuel line, I assume just upstream of the fuel rail, and use compressed air, probably using a tee, to push a very concentrated solution of cleaner mixed with gasoline through the injectors. They run it for 15-20 minutes.



The mechanic's claims sound comparable to what people here have been saying about Run-Rite - the results depend on how dirty your injectors and combustion chambers were. He says some people have seen a significant improvement in the way their cars ran, and others have seen more modest benefits. At least he's not over-hyping the product. I've already had my injectors cleaned and balanced by Marren, so I'm not expecting this to have a huge benefit, but my idle is still a bit unsteady (I have 91,000 miles), so I figure it can't hurt. Anybody have any experience with this system (I'd be surprised, otherwise somebody would have mentioned it already, but I thought I'd ask). Thanks.

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[gbarrier]

So what's the deal here? Is the stuff just fed thru a vac line and can I buy just the product. Have a couple of cars that could benefit but just don't care to go to some of these places and if anyone is going to run my tip for an extended period it's going to be me.

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[94SilverCab]

This product is not sold direct to the public. The reason is that if the fluid is introduced to the vac line too quickly it can hydro-lock the engine.



This process is also several steps, IIRC Oil Additive, gas additive, as well as vac line fluid...might be missing one....



Jay

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[Anchorman]

Hey, Cosimo, we can make your Run-Rite day into a mini-Celebration. Keep us posted.

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[94SilverCab]

I'd be up for a BBQ...no pomp and circumstance , just a run along the Delaware and some beer and burgers.



Always happy to visit with 968ers



Jay

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[Bob Kovacs]

[quote name='gbarrier' date='May 26 2006, 08:15 AM']So what's the deal here?  Is the stuff just fed thru a vac line and can I buy just the product.  Have a couple of cars that could benefit but just don't care to go to some of these places and if anyone is going to run my tip for an extended period it's going to be me.

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During the time that the fluid is sucked through a vacuum line into intake manifold, the engine has to be held at 1,800-2,000 rpm. There was one final step: swabbing the gunk out of the throttle body.



I'm thinking of seeing if I can become a dealer for Run-Rite. If so, I can treat cars in the DC area. I'll let the gang know in the next week or two if this will work out. Heck, I've got three cars of my own that I'd like to treat with this stuff.



--Bob

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[cosimo]

Jay, I mentioned it to Anne and got a nod of approval. This time I'm going to find another way to Newtown. The I-95 route is just too nerve racking and not much fun. It like NASCAR EAST. Anyway, we could have a mini celebration with Anchorman. I'll bring the cigars! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> Bob, keep us informed on your efforts. It would be a real plus for the Porsche community.

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[RPM]

I am always looking for an excuse to visit our nation's capitol <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/cool.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Cloud9...68]

Ah, so this Run-Rite stuff is sucked through a vacuum line into the throttle body. What's the advantage of this versus using a can of Sea Foam? I still haven't heard from them, so I can't say I'm terribly impressed with the company at this point.



The BG product I described injects the cleaner directly into the injectors via (I assume) the fuel rail, so it would appear to have the advantage of cleaning the injectors as well. Not that I need this, since, as I said, I had mine cleaned by Marren about a year ago, but it can't hurt. I think I'll give it a try, most like a week from tomorrow, and I'll let everybody know how it turns out.

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[Darryl]

[quote name='Bob Kovacs' date='May 26 2006, 09:44 AM']I'm thinking of seeing if I can become a dealer for Run-Rite. If so, I can treat cars in the DC area. I'll let the gang know in the next week or two if this will work out. Heck, I've got three cars of my own that I'd like to treat with this stuff.



--Bob

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Bob,



That would be great...if you need help, let me know as I may be able to offer business credentials for VA (if necessary) and/or have a shop as there is a super nice guy in my complex that builds cars (Cobra and Daytona replicas) and may serve as the necessary shop if required. I'd be happy to talk to him if/when required.



As a side note, I'm still running a lot smoother especially in 2nd and 3rd gears and idle is very steady! Thanks, Pete!



- Darryl

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[RS Barn]

Just to give you some backround.

Run Rite originally only sold products to quick lube centers. They have a very cool product that suspends solids so when you drain the oil they all come out.

They also got involved very early with induction cleaning for emissions compliance.

I became involved with them at that point while training for PA dyno emmissions program.

I was the first Auto parts Warehouse Distributor to promote Run Rite to installers as a "Tune UP" and Emissions cleanser.

Run Rite and myself were very adament that the installer was trained to perform these services. We've trained hundreds/thousands to do this. Unfortunately many Mass Merchandiser service centers adopted this service as a money maker. They have poor management and high turnover. Small independent service centers with good techs are the best place to have this done. Most of them are overbooked and not that willing to do a service on cars they do not know.

I've already talked to the President of the company about poor responce to inquirys. I'm sure I can get a qualified service center to help anyone.

Please contact me after the weekend if you need help

Pete

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[RS Barn]

Cloud 9

The Run Rite 4 step cleaning includes a professional grade injector cleaner step 1. This is the best on the market (we've tested the rest).

Step 2 includes an oil system treatment that loosens the rings and removes the gummy residue that keep the rings from sealing .

Step 3 is the intake cleaner that is pulled through the intake with air and fuel to clean the back of the intake valves and top of the piston,

Step 4 is a throttle body cleaner to remove deposits left by the recirculation of oil vapors to the intake

All these combined make a huge improvement to the combustion process

Read the customer endorsments. They are the real deal.

Pete

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[Cloud9...68]

Pete,



Thanks for the explanation of the Run-Rite process. It does sound like a very good system. I've just gotten frustrated by their complete lack of response to my inquiries, either through their web site, or from my email to Susan. I (and I'm sure many others) appreciate any help you can provide to improve their response to inquiries.

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[Mark]

[quote name='Cloud9...68' date='May 27 2006, 09:40 AM']Pete,



Thanks for the explanation of the Run-Rite process.  It does sound like a very good system.  I've just gotten frustrated by their complete lack of response to my inquiries, either through their web site, or from my email to Susan.  I (and I'm sure many others) appreciate any help you can provide to improve their response to inquiries.

[right][post="21828"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote]



I think this a big week for Run-Rite with Danica and the Indy 500 and my guess is half the company is in Indy and have been all week enjoying the show.

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[Cloud9...68]

[quote name='Mark' date='May 27 2006, 09:08 AM']I think this a big week for Run-Rite with Danica and the Indy 500 and my guess is half the company is in Indy and have been all week enjoying the show.

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Good point... Hopefully those of us waiting for a response will get one sometime next week.

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[fleetwood]

Flash-- do you know of any so cal shops who know how to do the run-rite induction cleaning (and who you trust)?

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