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I need a coupe
#21

sound would be better. car would be quieter. items in the rear would be out of sight. no hatch delamination to worry about. win win, if the aesthetics work.
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#22

Not sure why you guys find it so hard to pop the roof in and out on the coupe, I do it by myself with no trouble. Maybe I'm a bit taller or have longer arms than most - you do have to stretch yourself out a bit to get that thing back on straight. I worry more about opening and closing the hatch frequently to put the roof in there (due to possible warping of the frame, delamination, etc..).
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#23

It's all about leverage. If you're over, say, 6'2" (which I'm not), I bet it would be a whole lot easier. The guy who sold my my roll bar suggested I removed the panel on the underside of the sunroof to maximize the clearance for the hoop, so I did. It feels like this panel doesn't weigh more than a pound or two, yet it makes a big difference in the ease of removal and installation of the roof panel. Not that I'm suggesting anybody else do that, but it's amazing what a slight difference in weight, and in mechanical leverage (as a result of height), makes in terms of taking this thing on and off. But to me, whatever effort there is is well worth it - I really enjoy driving my car with the roof off. Here in Austin, we're a few weeks away from it being cool enough to start doing that.
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#24

Never had a problem with the sunroof in the 944S. Yeah, it's substantial and doesn't have any "handles" on it, but I took it off more times than I could count. Is the 968 somehow harder?
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#25

I don't know if its heavier but for people like myself it's all about leverage. It's not that I can't get it off and back on. It's just that you have to be mighty careful not to bang anything!
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[quote name='Blau' timestamp='1378491439' post='148805']Well, you don't have to go far to get your new coupe. Alburquerque. Already has the D1R SC so you don't have to waste time swapping that over&#33

Is this car Slate Grey? It looks a little dark and bluish...

http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/4024882117.html

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Yeah, tne lighting in photos can drastically throw off the color of many cars. I've seen oak green in person, not my cup of tea but that said, how much is a really good paint job for our cars ? Also I did not see an asking price in that ad for this car. Even though the mileage is a lot higher ( about double ) of what I'm seeking, it's still certainly something to consider if adding tne cost of tne car and the cost of a paint job makes sense..
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#27

$8k to do it right. anything less is cutting corners, and likely a "seal and shoot" job (no door jams, etc)



it all depends on the quality you want.
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#28

Now let me get this straight, we have a cab owner wanting to convert to a coupe owner.



Options: keep the cab, but a strut brace, lower suspension brace, rear body brace, fire wall brace (to stop the fire wall cracking), etc - simply to stiffen the car up, or,



Buy a much stiffer chassis in the form of a coupe!



I have never had to opportunity to lower or raise the hood on a cab 968, but I think we are all getting way too soft. I know, my wife's A5 cab, was electric and did everything for you, but is it that we are just getting too soft to open anything anymore? Is the quest for convenience (like cans coming with ring pull tops, etc), just making us lazy?



The 968 roof is probably easier than a Boxster Spyder?



We now think no power windows is hard work.



But, when it is all said and done - yes, the coupe is more rigid and structurally sound than the cab (which has been referred to by my mechanic as a bowl of jelly). Doesn't mean I wouldn't still like one with a supercharger fitted.
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#29

Soft is it! Hmm. Seems like your condemning an awful lot of us in one fell swoop! Wouldn't it be easier just to accuse use of being girlie men?
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#30

Rap,



The comment was meant in general - and a swipe at Western Society, including myself. Maybe not soft, how about touchy?



I don't want to sound like my grand father and Dad, but when I was a kid, you had to do everything by either hand or foot. You can now buy electric push bikes - no need to even peddle. Raising and lowering a roof in a car, now has multiple electric motors and cables, etc. whilst it is brilliant engineering, it adds weight, cost and complexity. We have labour saving devices for everything. I swept our path today (after cutting down about a tonne of bamboo over the last couple of weeks). Pity my blower/vac is stuffed, I had to do it the old way.



The point I was tryi to make, is that nearly everything we have/do now, almost takes all of the effort out of it. Self closing doors/boot, wave your foot under the bumper to get the boot to auto open, no longer have to put a key in a door lock, or ignition device, don't have to wind windows up or down, memory and electric seats, seat massagers, anti-glare mirrors, power mirrors, power steering, auto cruise control, auto brake assist, etc, etc. add in everything else we have around the house to make our lives easier, and perhaps, yes, we are getting soft (or is that old?).



Manually raising or lowering a roof on a cabriolet - hardly seems that hard (but I have not had to do it on a 968 cab). As per the quote - it might be hard on a 968 cab, but it is probably easier and less confusing than a Boxster Spyder.



Doing manual work around the house certainly shows up just how soft (and not just around the belly) I have become. I need a carton of HTFU just to get the chores that the wife wants done. If only there was an electric option for that.
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#31

I can honestly say that the only items I appreciate in a modern car are the electric lock/mirror/window on the passenger side. All the rest of the stuff can stay manual as far as I'm concerned as that's 1/2 the fun of "driving". I know I must start to sound like my dad too but I like to roll down the window and pull up on the E-brake (maybe in a corner <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.png" class="smilie" alt="" /> Don't even get me started about electric emergency brakes.
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#32

i love the memory function for the seats and mirrors. the wife and i frequently bounce between cars, and if i had to adjust that all the time, i'd go nuts.
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#33

Can't argue with the seat position memory feature. Even the very few times when I hand the keys to someone else ( car wash crew, hotels or restaurants valets ) and in spite of specifically instructing them not to move the seat at all, it's like talking to a brick wall ; 90% of the time the car is delivered with the seats in a completely different position, both distance and reclining mode. Arrghh.

I can't even imagine the annoyance if the wife and I would frequently switch the cars we drive. Ok, so I conceed that's not a girlie-man comfort feature, it's a necessity.
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#34

I have great memory seats - the car is a stick and she can't drive it, so the seat is always mine - lol
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#35

Speaking of electronic e-brakes, when I test drove that new Boxster S a couple weeks ago, I'm pulling up a steep ramp out of the stealership and the sales guy says, just let off the brake, and the car stayed in place. I don't think I'd be safe with something like that, because I'd get used to it, then I'd get back in my *other* car and forget, and roll back into someone.
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