[Lord_Galva]

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If you don't mind telling, what is your respray going to cost? I ask because about half of my car could use new paint, and I'm trying to decide if I should have all the take-off pieces (bumper covers, side panels, one door) painted or just do the whole thing. Thx!

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I'm saving around $2000 by doing the de-trim myself. Also there was very little body work needed to get the car ready so they gave me a low quote. If you really want to know how much it costs send me a pm.

I recommend to anyone considering a re-spray to let the shop see the car first and tell them you would like to de-trim it yourself. You will save a lot of $$$ and have the piece of mind that you are doing the work. Not some aging body shop guy who thinks they can just rip stuff off. There were a lot of delicate parts in the doors that require finesse. Once I get the parts back from the shop I will make a DIY manual for de-trimming the coupe.

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[Lord_Galva]

Some assembly required.

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[vliegwielolaf1234]

Are you taking the little side windows out ?

I did , they are difficult to remove because they are glued in there .

I did manage to take them out and re-use them .

The left one had rust under there , so glad i did , rust was not visible from the outside .

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[rxter]

I got a quote at a quality shop a couple of years ago. As I recall $3000 for the firewall forward; $6500 for the whole car. He said he hated working on Porsches because dis-assembly is a pain and often results in lots of little broken parts. Don't we know it. This guy would not to an Earl Shieb tape and spray job. He would only take it apart, prep it properly, paint and reassemble.



FWIW I ended up with Dr. Colorchip. $80.

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[Lord_Galva]

[quote name='vliegwielolaf1234' timestamp='1337230174' post='127029']

Are you taking the little side windows out ?

I did , they are difficult to remove because they are glued in there .

I did manage to take them out and re-use them .

The left one had rust under there , so glad i did , rust was not visible from the outside .

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The body shop had them removed and re-installed so they could paint in that little nook.



rxter: the dis-assembly was easy. The re-assembly is a PITA! I'm constantly worrying about messing up the paint.

The oddest thing I've done so far was stapling the front bumpers' rubber on. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.png" class="smilie" alt="" />

I put every screw in little snack size Ziplock bags and labeled them. This was extremely helpful. However, I wish I had taken more pics before dis-assembly. Some screws and panels fit weird, I ended up scanning the parts catalog to find their exact locations.

So far the only parts that have broken are: the hood emblem, a little side skirt connector, and various one time clips around the car. They include roof trim clips and the little vents on the body that match up to the door.

The biggest PITA is the sunroof seal. It's new and too big. I thought I ordered the wrong part but I verified it's the right one. The seal is so large that the roof "sits" on the opening and doesn't slide in. I will temporarily use the old one until I can figure out how to get the new one on.

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[DaveN]

Good info on the sunroof seal. I was going to replace mine (just for giggles) as it's 19 years old and the odd time I park at a funny angle I do get theodd drip inside the car. I will wait until you figure it out <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.png" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[vliegwielolaf1234]

Is it an original porsche rubber ?

Or some aftermarket supplier !!!

I always go for original , because of the fitting problems with aftermarket rubbers

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[Darryl]

A new sunroof seal will seem way too big and the reason is simple. The old/existing/original one is roughly 20 years old and very compressed by this time. I replaced my gears, re-calibrated the lifting arms and adjusted the clutch on the sunroof motor only to replace the seal later and found the same thing. The roof fit so tight and almost sat "on top" as described.



Here's what to do: Put the new seal on, put the roof in and down and make sure it's all the way down and then leave it for a little while, like a month or more, literally, and it will eventually fit better. I need to re-adjust the clutch now so the arms don't go back into the body upon lowering the roof since it fit so tight it worked it's way loose, but other than that, I am leak free up top!



also, as a side note, the rear hatch seal is the same way....a new one almost seems too bulbous, but it's a nice tight, leak proof seal good as new.



- Darryl

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[Lord_Galva]

Thanks Darryl. That advise came in handy when the door seal seemed too big also.

Done <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/popcorn.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Chris Vais]

Looks like a really nice paint job. Are you planning on restoring the graphics as well or just leaving it unadorned? Any plans for the wheels? I've got to believe that white wheels are a real bugger to keep clean.

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[Lord_Galva]

[quote name='Chris Vais' timestamp='1337707154' post='127240']

Looks like a really nice paint job. Are you planning on restoring the graphics as well or just leaving it unadorned? Any plans for the wheels? I've got to believe that white wheels are a real bugger to keep clean.

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I have to wait 2 months for the paint to finish 'curing' before adding the CS script to the side or putting the 968 badge on the back.

The wheels are starting to yellow around the rim so I'm going to try different wheel cleaners.

I'd love to re-paint them too but cash is low.

Just ordered another $130 bucks of rubber stuff, so I practically have a new 968 now.

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[flash]

i'd leave off all stickers and emblems. the lines are cleaner without all of that, and it's a very dated look anyway. plus, no matter what it has in the way of parts, if it wasn't one from the factory, it's not a true club sport, so "wannabe" stickers seem pretentious



as for the wheels, that's a very subjective thing. personally, i only like silver for wheels. wheels are more the "jewelry" of the car. painted wheels are more like children's plastic beads than adult jewelry

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[Lord_Galva]

[quote name='flash' timestamp='1337709027' post='127242']

i'd leave off all stickers and emblems. the lines are cleaner without all of that, and it's a very dated look anyway. plus, no matter what it has in the way of parts, if it wasn't one from the factory, it's not a true club sport, so "wannabe" stickers seem pretentious



as for the wheels, that's a very subjective thing. personally, i only like silver for wheels. wheels are more the "jewelry" of the car. painted wheels are more like children's plastic beads than adult jewelry

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I get what your saying about the stickers but we don't get the CS here in the states anyway. Does the fact there are almost no factory Turbo S's stop people from building replica's or using the chin spoilers or Turbo tails? Besides, even with the stickers I still had people asking me if it was a 928........ When Porsche people asked me if it's a CS I told them it is a clone. I am more than happy to put the stickers on, add a Turbo S tail, and waste all the rest of my money on a supercharger because it puts a smile on my face. That's all that matters anyways..... <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/3gears.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[flash]

we don't let people who build turbo cars call them a turbo s here either. it's a conversion. no matter how close they may get to what the factory did, it is NOT a turbo s.



i don't get the idea behind any turbo s clone or replica either. the factory turbos were primitive and not well sorted. there are better ways of doing things now. why you would go out of your way to do something less than what you can, and have no value increase in the process, makes no sense to me. if you want a turbocharged car, that's one thing, but to do it the way the factory did, knowing there are better ways today, makes no sense.



it isn't a club sport, won't be a club sport, and shouldn't be marked as a club sport. it's false advertising, and misleading. i don't get the point. why create a situation where you then have to make excuses? the car is what it is. if you have the shocks, brakes, gutted doors, and all that, that's lovely. it still isn't a club sport though, any more than a car with a turbo on it is a turbo s. be proud of the car and what you've done. don't belittle that by calling it something it isn't.



build the car how you want. do what you want. i just think it's ridiculous and inappropriate to call something by a name that it isn't, and takes away from the work you have done. i won't wear a fake rolex either, even though it may be a better watch.

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[Monstrous4Banger]

Comparing it to a fake rolex isnt quite right. Ive never seen a fake rolex that wasnt complete obvious garbage. I can buy a room full of real rolex's on craigslist right now if I want. Paying 150k+ import duties, taxes, etc for a grey market car I cant, or shouldnt drive doesnt make any sense to me. Cloning one does. Although Ive always planned to leave the "s" part of the emblem off. Turbo s cars are basically unobtainium. The only one for sale in the world is blood orange too, no thanks.

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[flash]

that is my point entirely.



even though there was a fairly wide range of options in some of them, it will still be very easy to tell the difference between a fake club sport and a real one.



i'm not suggesting that he doesn't try to build whatever kind of car he wants. i'm only saying that putting the label on it is just plain wrong. it is not going to be that model. it is wrong to call it what it is not.



it would be like buying a generic 307 model camaro, sticking a few of the SS items on it, and calling is an SS. it's just not the same thing. any collector will tell you that. you'll get laughed out of the building if to try to pass it off as the real thing at an auction. you might even get charged with fraud.

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[Rap]

Flash I gave up long ago trying to convince people not to do wrong or make wrong decisions. If someone wants to make something appear that which it is not, let them. Generally one can rest with the knowledge that some will recognize the scam. For those that can't, well then there is always another Bernie Madoff around the corner waiting to fleece them.

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[flash]

lol - yeah - he can do whatever dumb thing he wants. hey - gotta have somebody to laugh at, right?



it's about as silly as those kids in the ricer cars that have the big aluminum wings on them. the cars don't go fast enough to take advantage of the thing, but they put it on so it "looks" fast.



funny how when we get older we tend to prefer the sleeper, and not advertise what's going on under the hood. i learned it early. i used to make some decent change, and even picked up a couple of pink slips, racing in a sleeper.



but, we have to remember the source here, and in doing so, i'm not a bit surprised at this.

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[Monstrous4Banger]

The scam? Who is scamming any one here? I never plan on selling my car let alone try to scam someone into thinking its a factory turbo s. I can kinda see how that can be construed with a CS decal, but thats a stretch.

I dont think you get my point Flash, a fake rolex isnt a rolex at all. Its made in china, and looks nothing like a real one. A replica Porsche 968 turbo s, is still a Porsche 968 by any standard.

Replicas are pretty common for collector cars. I wish I had dollar for everytime Ive seen a replica shelby of some sort go across the block at barret jackson. Its still a ford mustang, just not an original shelby. They know its replica from the start because you can just check the VIN, engine numbers etc. I doubt you could even get that past them, with out them knowing, and listing it as such.

As far as primitve....the turbo, and management system, etc...sure. Youd be a fool to not take advantage of a modern turbo, and goodies.



I think you guys are being a bit harsh on him, even though FWIW, I mostly agree when it comes to CS.

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[flash]

a fake club sport stands out like a sore thumb. i've seen a few of them now. it's incredibly easy to tell that it isn't real one. takes me less than a minute. i have no issue with putting the CS equipment in the car, even though it will still be missing some key identifying things that are very easy to see. it's the stickers that are really wrong. it labels the car as something that it is not.



p.s. it's just as wrong to do it on a shelby, and those guys get snickered at. it's actually kind of fun to watch. go to an auction. good entertainment.



you have an email that might explain more and might change your mind a LOT

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