[Cloud9...68]

My turn signal no longer stays in position on a right signal; I have to hold the stalk to keep the signal flashing. It works fine on a left signal. Has anyone ever replaced one of these before? How much disassembly of the steering column is required? Thanks.

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[josephsc]

I've replaced the whole stalk/switch assembly -- pretty much comes right off once you take the steering wheel off.

BTW -- it can also be that the tab that activates/deactivates the turn signal has broken off (I don't think so, because your signal works turning one direction, but not the other right?) That tab is connected to the steering wheel.

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[Cloud9...68]

The signal works in both directions, but the stalk doesn't stay in position when executing a right signal. In other words, I press up on the stalk, the right signal comes on, but when I release the stalk, instead of staying in position, allowing the signal to keep flashing, it pops back to the "neutral" position, causing the signal to stop flashing. For a left signal, the stalk stay in the down position, allowing the signal to keep flashing.

So, what's involved in removing the steering wheel? Thanks for the help.

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[xrad]

BEFORE YOU ATTEMPT THIS:
Unhook tha battery and wait 10 minutes.

2 cheese head bolts on back. Then remove a-bag and red connector carefully.
one 22mm? steering shaft nut. Wheel should pop right off and expose the
horn 'O' contact. remove this then get access to turn signal controls. PITA part is the rubber surround if you need to exchange it.

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[Johannvb]

I had exactly the same issue on my car, and replaced the unit about 6 months ago. Here are my tips:

- Make sure you get the correct stalk assembly because there are 16 different types!!!
- Disconnect the battery the night before, just to be safe with the airbag light.
- Remember to mark the position of the steering wheel before you pull if off the steering column. Use paint not chalk...cause chalk rubs off.
- Be very careful when removing the boot. Even though I bought a new one it tore during installation, so did the second free of charge replacement I got from Porsche. Eventually I decided to reuse the old one, this time I had no problems. I think the new boots are inferior quality.
- Have a look in the factory workshop manual Volume III section 48-3 "Removing and Installing ignition steering lock". In there you will see that you need 45mm from the tip of the steering column to the base of the switch assembly. There is also a handy tip on how to correctly setup the horn ring

I found this to be a very rewarding DIY.

Good luck!

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[xrad]

good time to clean up your horn contact ring

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[Cloud9...68]

Thanks for all the tips! Great advice, as usual.

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[DaveN]

I have battled the "ripping" boot also. I replaced mine and ripped it while installing. Nothing will stick to that silicon rubber but I did have some success with Crazy Glue. I put on the boot and then but jointed the torn bit with Crazy Glue and prayed for 30 seconds. It's still holding but I'm sure if I stretch it too much it will break again.

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[xrad]

try silicone glue?

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[Cloud9...68]

<!--quoteo(post=75974:date=Jul 22 2009, 11:27 PM:name=xrad)-->QUOTE (xrad @ Jul 22 2009, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->2 cheese head bolts on back.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
OK, I took a quick look, and don't understand what you mean. I assume you mean the back of the steering wheel, but I didn't see any cheese head bolts, or any other type of bolts back there. Does something have to come off to expose these bolts? I suppose I should crack open the manual...

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[josephsc]

There are two cheeseheads (can't remember exactly what size) that holds the airbag to the steering wheel. They are on the back side, and the holes are pretty deep if I recall.... Removing the airbag exposes the 22mm (?) bolt that holds the steering wheel down to the steering column.

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[flash]

i think they might be torx - i know that is what i used to remove them - could be triple square though - i can't remember

i do remember that they were danged tight, and i needed to put a pair of pliers on the shaft of the driver to crack them loose

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[Johannvb]

<!--quoteo(post=76101:date=Jul 25 2009, 04:10 PM:name=flash)-->QUOTE (flash @ Jul 25 2009, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->i think they might be torx - i know that is what i used to remove them - could be triple square though - i can't remember

i do remember that they were danged tight, and i needed to put a pair of pliers on the shaft of the driver to crack them loose<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I also think that I had torx screws in there.

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[DaveN]

Definitly Torx as I had to buy a set to get the wheel off.

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[DaveN]

Definitly Torx but they are burried a couple of cm into the back plastic of the wheel. You can see the holes from the outside of the windshield looking into the back of your sterring wheel.

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[Cloud9...68]

Yes (he says most sheepishly), I found them. I also found that the turn signal stalk comes as part of the complete assembly, including the windshield wiper and cruise control stalks, and the whole thing goes for well north of $200. With our funds going into the start-up of my wife's new business (which is going quite well, hopefully enabling some serious mods in the near future [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] ), this is a little more than I bargained for right now. Does anybody think the turn signal problem I'm having is repairable? It's probably just a plastic tab of some kind that's broken off. Has anybody ever tried taking the assembly apart to make a repair of this type?

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[Johannvb]

This photo of a 993 steering wheel clearly shows the hole for the torx bolt on the left had side between the two spokes...the other one is on the right hand side [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif[/img]

oops...2 mintes too late! It didn't look to me like you could open it up, but I guess with the right skills and a dremel and some glue you might be able to fix it. I phoned a couple of breakers yards when mine broke and they all had a couple lying around but they weren't all that much cheaper.

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<!--quoteo(post=75969:date=Jul 22 2009, 09:17 PM:name=josephsc)-->QUOTE (josephsc @ Jul 22 2009, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->BTW -- it can also be that the tab that activates/deactivates the turn signal has broken off<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think you're right. Sometimes, on very rare occasions, the turn signal lever stays in position, suggesting there may be a nub left of whatever has broken off. Any thoughts on whether it's worth taking the unit out and trying to repair it? The assembly is pretty expensive, and if it's just a tab that's broken off, maybe a little ingenuity and some Krazy Glue could do the trick...

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