[josephsc]

I have no excuses -- I should've know better.



90 minutes of holiday stop & go traffic in a 15 year old 968 w/ 180k miles on odo just led to a blown clutch hydraulic line. I was on my way from Berkeley to Lake Tahoe and only got as far as Fairfield when the clutch went. I had to reverse direction and retreat home by shifting w/o a clutch. Two hours of lost time -- argh! I'm back home now, and taking another p-car to get back up to Tahoe. I'll post updates at the end of the weekend.



Watch those clutch hydraulics everyone!

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[Renalicious]

Shifting with no clutch, ouch <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



You know, I'm thinking that with all these stories about hydraulics going, I should get mine replaced the next time I'm at the shop, since they'll be digging in that general vicinity anyways (replacing the breather box). Is it worth replacing all hydraulics? Or just clutch cylinders?

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[flash]

seriously - everybody running original parts should change all the clutch hydraulics (hose, master, slave) - it is only a matter of time before this happens to you



as for whether or not to do everything else (brakes), the master is typically just as susceptable, though does not seem to be known for such failures on this car - not sure what that's about, but i'm danged happy about it - the brake lines though are overdue, and you cannot see the damage, as it is inside the line and not visible from the outside - too many people look at them and think they are fine, and they aren't - i recommend changing them to the stainless braided lines

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[Anchorman]

OK, OK, OK...my lines have been changed to stainless, and next time the car is at RS Barn, I'll have the cylinders and hoses done - Pete, please get the parts and prepare the invoice. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/sad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[flash]

lol - life with an old car - maybe i'm just used to it or toughened up to having to deal with hydraulics, after dealing with old british cars for so long - on those you can't even use american brake fluid or you have problems (live rubber seals) - i expected this to have to be done - didn't stop me from being stupid, ignoring the problem, and then having them blow on me, resulting in a bashed fender and broken headlight from the tow truck though

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[doster]

[quote name='flash' post='28227' date='Nov 23 2006, 10:17 AM']lol - life with an old car - maybe i'm just used to it or toughened up to having to deal with hydraulics, after dealing with old british cars for so long - on those you can't even use american brake fluid or you have problems (live rubber seals) - i expected this to have to be done - didn't stop me from being stupid, ignoring the problem, and then having them blow on me, resulting in a bashed fender and broken headlight from the tow truck though[/quote]





OH! now you tell me. Thats why i kept having trouble with my TR6 <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Bob Kovacs]

I'm with flash on the hoses but think that things like master cylinders, slave cylinders and caliper hydraulics tend to last a long time if you change fluid regularly. The only time I've had master cylinders go, it was on cars with long neglected brake fluid changes.



The rubber brake and clutch hoses are another story. They only have so many years of carrying fluid under pressure and they're gonna go. The clutch hose might be the worst in this regard, as it gets some heat where it's located.



--Bob

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[doster]

On a previous post i remember I think it was flash that said that there are no after market steel braided

clutch hoses for sale but a hydrolic shop can make them up. is this a good way to go? its probably

cheeper than oem.

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[whakiewes]

Hmm...what would everyone be willing to pay for a bolt in piece to replace all the parts with stainless steel braided lines? It wouldn't take me long or much money to get this going.



Wes

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[968norway]

Porscheshop UK has a braided-stainless replacement for the clutch hose. Bought one but haven't put it in yet, so I don't know if it fits.



http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/pors...on_gearbox.html

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[Jason Judd]

Wes,



I'd be interested in that braided s/s line!



Jason

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[whakiewes]

I am pretty confident I can come in way cheaper than $60 pounds. Based on the dollar thats about $85 before shipping, which would be about $120 after you recieved the product...not including the time through customs. I will see if I can whip something up on Monday.



Wes

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[BMWRider]

I would like to participate in this as well. At the rate I am going when I get everything else fixed the clutch line will blow.

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[flash]

the prototype of a new braided hose should be in my mailbox now - if it checks out, i should have them available next week

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[ds968]

[quote name='flash' post='28257' date='Nov 24 2006, 08:54 AM']the prototype of a new braided hose should be in my mailbox now - if it checks out, i should have them available next week[/quote]



count me in ! well, you already knew that.. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Dave]

[quote name='Bob Kovacs' post='28233' date='Nov 23 2006, 05:04 PM']but think that things like master cylinders, slave cylinders and caliper hydraulics tend to last a long time if you change fluid regularly.[/quote]



I strongly agree. Each "new to me" P-car I have purchased had sediment in the brake fluid when I did my first flush. One was bad enough to require pedal pressure just to push it through the bleed screw!



After that, flush them once every year or two for a street car with good fluid and you'll avoid a lot of issues.

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[flash]

my car had ben flushed regularly, and used ATE fluid it's entire life - the master cylinder was weeping - not so you could see any leaks, but if you peeled back the gaitor, you could see it



the problem with changing only the hose in a clutch, is that the compariteively weaker remaining seals frequently then subsequently fail



the parts are cheap the labor is very minimal - total cost was 250 in parts, and took me not much more than 2 hours total



dan - no problem - i expect the hose to retail at about 50 bucks - i'll have an update for everybody on monday - sorry for the dealy - all projects got put on hold while i moved - now back up and running for the most part and back on these projects

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[ether_joe]

[quote name='flash' post='28257' date='Nov 24 2006, 08:54 AM']the prototype of a new braided hose should be in my mailbox now - if it checks out, i should have them available next week[/quote]



I gotta check my maint records, but I'm probably in for one also.

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[Renalicious]

As far as I can tell, mine were never changed either. I'm interested in those steel ones that Flash talked about <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> The longer they last, the better! Still waiting for the other parts to come in from Germany, so I should call and see how much it will cost to replace the hyrdauilcs too.

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[ether_joe]

looks like my slave and master cylinders were replaced in 2004 and 2001. . . but I''m thinking I should go in for the steel high pressure hose.



Maybe combine that with SS brake lines. . .

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