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[jeff968]

"Hi Jeff, Can you tell me anything interesting about my Amazon Green coupe? VIN WPOAA2969RS820146; Type 968 110; Engine/Trans M4443-42P G4400-10; Paint/Int L39A LC; options C02 030 231 331 403 418 437 454 490 650 718 15801. Mfr. date is 5/93. Originally delivered in Sept 93 by Brumos as a '94 (how did they do that?). From Florida the car went to NJ. I'm the 3rd owner in GA. thanks!"


Hi Lance,
I'm almost done with the coupe registry but not 100% yet. What I do know is that your car is #1,343 of 2,234 of the North American coupes. Amazon green is shaping up to be the 6th most popular color on 968 coupes, looks like around 100. However, in the M030 area I only have 3 M030 cars in Amazon (so far). Amazon paired with a Black/cashmere interior is the most common version with 56 at this time (but again, I'm not done). Options are LC partial leather, L39A metallic paint, 030 package (includes 403 17" wheels), 418 body colored side moldings, 490 hi-fi sound. An interesting note on your car, no 220 limited slip. Believe it or not, 20% of the M030 cars don't have it. You also have 15801 which is a custom interior option which I've seen before but I don't know what it is. Do you have any idea? Piping on the seats? special carpet or something? And you are correct, your car, clearly manufactured in the 1993 model year (May 93) was reVINed by Porsche as a 1994 using option code 718. Your car would have all the MY 1993 features like the wheel and seat style and the paint color.
Jeff

[tim944s]

Jeff

To follow up from yesterday. The car is a 5/93. As for the options, you are most certainly correct as I checked with my window sticker from the original purchase which was from Circle Porsche in Long Beach California. As for the options, it does seem like a very mildly equiped car. So much in fact that my 1987 944S was more highly equiped. I have even swapped the seats from the two, as the 944S has far better side bolsters plus seats are heated. So my question to you is car was made in 1993, then doesn't that actually change the total numbers for '94 cars? Why does the VIN indicate a '94 when the car is a '93?

[tim944s]

Something of interest for me. Looking at the window sticker it says the POE is Charleston, SC. Would this be the port from which they arrive, and then trucked from there?

Also, color is shown as A1A1 and INT. as LT.

[jeff968]

"So my question to you is car was made in 1993, then doesn't that actually change the total numbers for '94 cars? Why does the VIN indicate a '94 when the car is a '93?"

Well, I go by VIN and so does everyone else. The "R" in the 10th position of your VIN says model year 1994. If it was a "P" it would be a MY 1993. When 968 sales slowed Porsche somehow was able to use option code 718 to reVIN cars and sell leftover cars as the current model year. They did this not only with 968s but 911s and 928s too. The early nineties was a difficult time to sell cars. If you take the option code 718 cars out of the "R" code VIN car production run it changes the coupe numbers from 718 1994s (the actual # of MY R code VIN coupes was 718!) to 557.

As for the paint/interior codes, A1 is the sales code for black exterior paint. Since your car is a coupe they list it twice for the lower and upper body (a cab would have a different code, the color of the cab top, as the second code). The paint code is L700 or L741 (found on vehicle information sticker). The LT is the interior code and tells you both the color and type, it has partial leather in black.

Jeff

Edited by jeff968, 02 September 2010 - 04:39 AM.

[Lear35A]

jeff968 "You also have 15801 which is a custom interior option which I've seen before but I don't know what it is. Do you have any idea? Piping on the seats? special carpet or something?"

Take a look at this interior picture. The wood trim pieces I always assumed were some aftermarket add on. Is it possible this was actually a Porsche option? I don't see anything else in the interior that is special. '

Although I still won't like the "wood look", it would be nice to know it came that way from the factory.

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[jeff968]

Thanks for the photo Lance. Although Porsche did offer wood pieces what you have is not factory. That would be identified by factory X options. The factory wood is pretty rare. As for your interior, I see only one thing. The carpet. It should be cashmere (see photo of my coupe) so I'm thinking your code is a deviating carpet option but I thought that was a different code??? So, I'm not sure.
Jeff

[flash]

there are a lot of options that were not on the sales information - you could order the car with any option you wanted, including some that are not on the sales list - also, many dealerships installed options with which the car was not originally built - these will not appear on the trunk sticker - some dealerships reprinted the window sticker to show them, and some did not

wood was available, though i have only seen it once in anything other than aftermarket, and it was easy to tell it was original - there is at least one guy here on the west coast that has an original kit though - somewhere here i have the part numbers - i tracked it down a long long time ago, but found the parts to be discontinued almost immediately upon release - i guess they saw early on that it wasn't going to be popular (though personally i like it in the right car)

as a package it could have been P51 or P52 in a manual trans car, though that one looks more like it was as an exclusive option if it was original (can't tell from the shot), and it could have been E0, E71, or E72 - an exclusive package could have been a Y

[hot968]

Hey Jeff, hope all is good for and family and r enjoying the summer. If u get time my number is WPOAA2969PS820077 is mine # 666? of how many 93 coupes? any othr info? Thanks

[jeff968]

"Hey Jeff, hope all is good for and family and r enjoying the summer. If u get time my number is WPOAA2969PS820077 is mine # 666? of how many 93 coupes? any othr info? Thanks"


Hi Hot, I see you have a midnight blue/classic gray tiptronic coupe. Options include the paint, partial leather, painted crest center caps and body colored side moldings. The car is #666 out of 2,234 and #17 for the 93 coupes. F8 Midnight blue is the 4th most common color. I don't have the final number yet but shoupd we around 220. Midnight blue paired with classic gray interior is the most popular combo for for midnight blue. I have 78 registered so far. What is the production date of your car? Aug-92? Thx

Jeff

[Monstrous4Banger]

Jeff, I still havent completely figured out what option code 09991 is. Any idea? I know its part of the "exclusive program", no idea beyond that.

[jeff968]

"Jeff, I still havent completely figured out what option code 09991 is. Any idea? I know its part of the "exclusive program", no idea beyond that."


M4B, 09991 is the exclusive program option code and the car has to have at least ONE exclusive program option (X code) to have that code listed. The option is usually painted center caps (option code XD4) which almost 50% of the coupes and cabs came with but it could be many other things like rootwood shifter knobs, painted wheels, or extra pieces covered in leather.
Jeff

[Monstrous4Banger]

Ahhh, yes. I have xd4. I think thats it. Maybe some leather here and there extra. Interior door handles are always leather right, and the door panels? Last I looked, it seemed like the back of the front seats were leather.

[jeff968]

"Ahhh, yes. I have xd4. I think thats it. Maybe some leather here and there extra. Interior door handles are always leather right, and the door panels? Last I looked, it seemed like the back of the front seats were leather."

M4B, you have interior code TS which is the standard partial leather (only the seat faces are leather, the rear of the seats is vinyl) in light gray. Leather door openers/recess plate was option XM6 but not a single coupe and only one cab came with it so it is rare. Your car should have these pieces in colored hard plastic like mine. Door panels are not leather either. Shifter boot and knob are as well as steering wheel and e-brake handle (just the grip).
Jeff