[lisalauck]

I'm very interested in the white tip coupe that Crespo PM'd me about. He has it at the RS barn finishing up some maintenance. The photos he sent me are great and the info he has shared suggests that both he and the previous owner have taken very good care of this vehicle. Since we (crespo and I) found one another thru this list and Pete is taking care of the car, I wonder if asking to have a third party evaluate it would just be plain rude?? (Y'all are both probably reading this and now I feel like a bag of buttholes!!) --Lisa

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[968rz]

My opinion is No, it's not disrepectful. You (nor I ) know Crespo personally so have know reason to trust his word (no offense Crespo). RSBarn has a great rep (as many here will atest) but a trhirt party PPI is ALWAYS a good idea.



"just my opinion, no disrepect intended <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> "

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[Darryl]

While I don't necessarily think it would be disrespectful, and as 968rz says it's always a good idea, I do think it may be redundant. I don't know Crespo personally either, but I do know Pete and have seen his shop and know his reputation. Let me simply say that if I were looking for someone to actually DO a PPI, I would call Pete. Jay? Anchorman? Just my $.02! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



- Darryl

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[968rz]

Your 100% correct Darryl.

If I was buying my car again knowing what I know about RSBarn now; I would have them do the PPI (not one person has a bad thing to say about Pete and the Barn).

I was just making the point that when buying a car never take the word of the seller (or his/her favorite garage) ask anyone who has bought a car from the (un-named) dealer from Texas.

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[flash]

i don't think it is disrespectful, but i do think you will be hard pressed to find anybody who knows more about 968s - you could go to a dealer or another shop, and the liklihood is that they won't know what they are looking at



further, having had a lot of business dealing with pete, i have a hard time imagining that he would ever let one sale of somebody else's car, with which he has direct involvement, ever stand a chance of damaging his reputation - i have had nothing but the best experience with him, and trust him implicitly



i think a detailed conversation with pete about what has been done to the car would really go a long way toward making you feel a lot easier about it



there is a PPI checklist here on this site - use it - i think you stand your best chance at a real appraisal of the car though, but using the guy who knows more about these cars that just about anybody else, even though he is involved in the deal

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[lisalauck]

Thanks y'all... I'll call Pete next week. I've only spoken with the owner so far. Knowing that I can trust Pete and that I shouldn't have to waste Crespo's time and my money on a PPI by another shop does put me at ease. (Neither the RS Barn nor Pete are actually involved in the deal. The RS Barn just did all the work on the car and it was there until recently.)

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[94SilverCab]

Lisa,



Pete is a close personal friend and I would not let anyone else touch my 968. However, if it woud give you piece of mind to have a PPI then do what it takes to rest easy. I know that Pete will be 100% up front with you and would probably even reccomend another mechanic who is widely respected by the entire 968 community to back the information up. Give him a call and make your own decision.



Regards,



Jay

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[RPM]

Any 13-15 year old car has issues. A thorough PPI does not just uncover big problems, it catalogs all issues, big and small. It is one thing to take a person's word or a good recommendation to try a new restaurant... it is entirely different when spending thousands of dollars on a car you have never touched.



Now, having said all of that I must say that I purchased a 968 in NJ that I had not seen and did not get a PPI. A very good shop (Powertech) had just completed a $5k work order on the car and I spoke with the mechanic by phone. I also had a 968 enthusiast (Damian Deblis) go and eyeball the car. All reports were good and I traveled up to buy the car. No regrets three years later. However a thorough PPI might have uncovered a weakening clutch that I had to replace a few months later and some small dents on the roof that did not show up in photos or conversations. It would also have caught a slight leak in the rear transmission seal that Powertech missed when they fixed the pinion bearing. Powertech offered to fix it - if I brought the car in... by then it was in NC!



My advice after all of this: ask Pete or someone on the forum for a recommendation and spend the $100. If nothing else it is a nice to-do list for the coming months.

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[Anchorman]

My experience, when purchasing my car, is that a PPI may give you some comfort, but don't count on it to reveal all issues. And, even if it suggests that an issue is minor, that turns out to be major, don't count on having any recourse. I had one NJ shop do a PPI on a car I'd already decided not to purchase because I used the PPI as a test of the shop - a well-known Porsche shop. I've never gone back there, as I'd found many things they did not. I have no doubt that Pete will give you the most complete and candid assessment - but, at the end of the day, these are aging cars and "caveat emptor" is the rule. Expect to spend some bucks after the purchase, and be pleasantly surprised if you don't have to.

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[rhudeboye]

[quote name='RPM' post='40771' date='Sep 4 2007, 03:10 PM']spend the $100. If nothing else it is a nice to-do list for the coming months.[/quote]



That last phrase sums up my thoughts pretty well. A few little things are going to be there and theres also quite a few part to be replaced simply for piece of mind. However here are your two big advantages:



A. You have all of the info on the car

B. The work was done by a shop that specializes in 968s



Wish I was so lucky when I got mine.



David

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[ether_joe]

hey guys what it is??!?!?! long time no post.





Penelope / Lisa I just wanted to say that pastel wagon is yours? man that's a sweet ride. Now I want one. . . <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[rhudeboye]

[quote name='ether_joe' post='40858' date='Sep 6 2007, 12:00 PM']hey guys what it is??!?!?! long time no post.

Penelope / Lisa I just wanted to say that pastel wagon is yours? man that's a sweet ride. Now I want one. . . <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />[/quote]



Hey Joe



Where ya been? I heard you were abducted.

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[ether_joe]

[quote name='rhudeboye' post='40877' date='Sep 6 2007, 05:47 PM']Hey Joe



Where ya been? I heard you were abducted.[/quote]





yep. I've got scars where the aliens cut into my brain. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[ds968]

ah, lucky you were the victim of a "brain probe" ( contrary to the more common one aliens are known for <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> )



hey, good to see you back on the board !! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[lisalauck]

[quote name='ether_joe' post='40858' date='Sep 6 2007, 03:00 PM']hey guys what it is??!?!?! long time no post.

Penelope / Lisa I just wanted to say that pastel wagon is yours? man that's a sweet ride. Now I want one. . . <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />[/quote]



Yep she's mine. I almost sold her a while back but I started crying just as I finished the listing so that kinda told me that it wasn't the time! I'm a dork. She needs a little work (rust issues) but mechanically she is a peach and there are only a few tiny cosmetic problems. These "Type 3" VW Squareback wagons show up on Ebay frequently and can be had for less than $3K depending on condition. The only problem with owning one is that the support community is relatively small. I WISH there was a forum as active as this for the Type 3 series.



Something about round headlights does it for me I guess... lol.



Oh and about the Porsche. I saw it and had a chance to meet Pete this past weekend. Pete was VERY patient with me (we were over 5 hours late!!) and made me feel very comfortable about the mechanical condition of the car. Pete rocks.

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[Darth Vadar]

My very first Brand New car was a 1966 Type III "Fasty" (Fastback)..

Loved it and got a FI '68, then a '70 both for the daily grind...

I was a bit rough on them and could only get about 50K out of an engine before a complete rebuild, but in those days, I had a shop that would do it for $500.00 even and I was good for another 50K miles! Of course the car only cost $1,800.00 and change, brand new!



In fact, I have been searching the Samba ads for a nice one here in the Midwest... I just missed a '68 Fasty up in Grand Rapids, MI. that had 8,600 ORIGINAL miles on it!!!



I'm sure it needed everything replaced due to age, but it sold for $6,000.00, so it must have not been too bad!



The search continues... My '66 was the same light blue as yours!

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[flash]

i bought one of those for 75 bucks in 84 - stuck a bettery in it and drove it home - nothing else wrong with it



sold it 3 times for $300- lol - i let 2 guys take it on payments and they defaulted after being 2/3 paid off - i repo-ed the car twice - third time the guy paid it off,and it finally went away

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[Mark]

I think i have owned 11 or 12 air cooled VWs including a 411 but never had a wagon. Adjust the valves and change the oil every 3K miles and they run forever.

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