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Starter is going...
#1

When you turn key, starter engages for a second but before it fires up it goes "whirrrrrrrrrr".



I'll be putting the new starter in tomorrow and I'll let you'all know if that fixed it. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/cool.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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Michael Sorbera

aka San Antonio Silver Bullet

2002 VW Beetle TDI

2004 Nissan Titan Crew Cab

2004 Cherokee 33ft Travel Trailer

1990 Mercury Grand Marquis

1993 Amazon Green 968 Coupe (sold)

2002 Speed-Yellow Boxster (sold)

1987 Slate Grey 944 Turbo (sold)

1987 Guards Red 944 (first Porsche - sold)
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#2

Funny. My car is dead a few miles away and I am working on determining battery or starter. Seems like battery now (no crank, volts way low). Got a new battery on the way. Figured I would put it in regardless as I have no idea how old the old one is. Decided not to worry about getting the fancy Optima. My daughter's boyfriend works at Advanced Auto (to pay for his Camaro racecar - he is an engineering student at C State) and had one in stock.



Checked around on starter prices:



All were remanufacturs and do not include core charge



Performance Products catalog - $400 (Bosch)

Local good Porsche shop - $325 (Bosch)

Local Advanced Auto - $ 305 and wait a week (unknown rebuild)

Sunset Porsche in OR - $95 (Porsche OEM rebuild)



Sunset is awesome! According to thier database there are only two Porsche OEM rebuilds in the US dealer parts network. It pays to shop around.
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Ralph

2002 Carrera Coupe - Orient Red Metallic

'93 968 Coupe Amazon Green Metallic w/airbox mod (sold 2009)

'89 944 S2 (gone to live in the Midwest)

'77 911S (RIP)

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[quote name='sasilverbullet' date='Jul 8 2005, 06:20 PM']When you turn key, starter engages for a second but before it fires up it goes "whirrrrrrrrrr".



I'll be putting the new starter in tomorrow and I'll let you'all know if that fixed it. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/cool.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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That sometimes can be fixed with the GSS fix in the DIY section, but that can be a temporary solution. I recently replaced my starter with a reman one from Sunset. Is that where you got yours? If so they, include a nose bushing that is critical to proper engagement of the starter gear. My trick of getting the old one out is to reach in with a 1/2" twist drill and it should grab and fragment the old bushing in a couple of turns.
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I got a Bosch. There is a bushing in the box.



I'll let you'all know how it goes...
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Michael Sorbera

aka San Antonio Silver Bullet

2002 VW Beetle TDI

2004 Nissan Titan Crew Cab

2004 Cherokee 33ft Travel Trailer

1990 Mercury Grand Marquis

1993 Amazon Green 968 Coupe (sold)

2002 Speed-Yellow Boxster (sold)

1987 Slate Grey 944 Turbo (sold)

1987 Guards Red 944 (first Porsche - sold)
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#5

Hooray!



My problem was only a bad battery. All along I had chalked it up to GSS since this was a replacement battery for the original and the car is only at 70k. Third battery in 70k/13 years... hmmm I wonder if that is fairly normal. The replacement was a DieHard.



Hope your starter adventure is successful.
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Ralph

2002 Carrera Coupe - Orient Red Metallic

'93 968 Coupe Amazon Green Metallic w/airbox mod (sold 2009)

'89 944 S2 (gone to live in the Midwest)

'77 911S (RIP)

And a whole bunch of VWs over the years...
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#6

Took about 1 hour on the lift - not hard to do, didn't even have to remove any pans.



Getting the bushing out was a real booger though...



That old starter was really bad! It really cranks over FAST compared to before!



Wow, new starter, new front tires, what more could a Porsche nut ask for! :0
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Michael Sorbera

aka San Antonio Silver Bullet

2002 VW Beetle TDI

2004 Nissan Titan Crew Cab

2004 Cherokee 33ft Travel Trailer

1990 Mercury Grand Marquis

1993 Amazon Green 968 Coupe (sold)

2002 Speed-Yellow Boxster (sold)

1987 Slate Grey 944 Turbo (sold)

1987 Guards Red 944 (first Porsche - sold)
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#7

Well,my battery joy was short-lived. The battery was certainly shot - but it was the starter that killed it. It is already cranking hard. Ordered the OEM starter from Sunset for 96.00 plus shipping.



Wish I had a lift...
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Ralph

2002 Carrera Coupe - Orient Red Metallic

'93 968 Coupe Amazon Green Metallic w/airbox mod (sold 2009)

'89 944 S2 (gone to live in the Midwest)

'77 911S (RIP)

And a whole bunch of VWs over the years...
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#8

$96.00!!!



Wow! I just paid $200 for my Bosch!



Oh well, so much for the fun day...
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Michael Sorbera

aka San Antonio Silver Bullet

2002 VW Beetle TDI

2004 Nissan Titan Crew Cab

2004 Cherokee 33ft Travel Trailer

1990 Mercury Grand Marquis

1993 Amazon Green 968 Coupe (sold)

2002 Speed-Yellow Boxster (sold)

1987 Slate Grey 944 Turbo (sold)

1987 Guards Red 944 (first Porsche - sold)
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#9

Always call Sunset Porsche in Beaverton OR before buying a part anywhere else. They discount 15% from thier price for out of state orders. I don't know why and I don't ask.



The other nice thing about them is that it is a dealership parts counter. They really know their stuff. Good guys to talk to. This was one of two OEM rebuilt 968 starters in PCNA stock and they happened to have it on their shelf. $40 core charge and $18 for three day shipping.



I still wish I had a lift...
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Ralph

2002 Carrera Coupe - Orient Red Metallic

'93 968 Coupe Amazon Green Metallic w/airbox mod (sold 2009)

'89 944 S2 (gone to live in the Midwest)

'77 911S (RIP)

And a whole bunch of VWs over the years...
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#10

That also illustrates why it is important to return the cores too. Since there are relatively few of these cars out there. If you don't return the core, you will short change the next guy who needs a starter! There is another place that offers $99 reman starters, but they didn't have stock because people weren't returning cores!
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I was a good citizen and returned mine the next day ! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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