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Replacing brake pads (for beginners)
#21

it's not b.s. - do some reading.  it's not hard to find, and you'll find to to be true.  

 

that being said, keep in mind that i am not talking about replacing pads with the same pads.  i am talking about using a different chemical makeup of pad.  if you use the same pad as the one you are replacing, then it's usually fine.  that's the whole point i was making.  i cannot count the number of times i have run into this.  i constantly see guys do a simple pad slap, using some pad they got on the internet, not knowing any better, and then question why their brakes vibrate or pulse.

 

also, in my entire career, i think i have seen a grand total of 2 warped rotors, and both of those were on cars with sticky calipers.  it is almost always deposits that cause the vibration and pulsing.  it's pretty common too.

 

as for decelerating using the clutch, i don't think we are talking about slipping the clutch to slow down.  i think we are talking about downshifting, and then letting the compression of the engine slow you down.  of course you would not want to slip the clutch for decel.

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#22

Quote:that being said, keep in mind that i am not talking about replacing pads with the same pads.  i am talking about using a different chemical makeup of pad.  if you use the same pad as the one you are replacing, then it's usually fine.  that's the whole point i was making.  i cannot count the number of times i have run into this.  i constantly see guys do a simple pad slap, using some pad they got on the internet, not knowing any better, and then question why their brakes vibrate or pulse.


as for decelerating using the clutch, i don't think we are talking about slipping the clutch to slow down.  i think we are talking about downshifting, and then letting the compression of the engine slow you down.  of course you would not want to slip the clutch for decel.


Yes, exactly what I was talking about as well , on both of the above points. Never having deviated from the type of pads the rotors are used to, I've never had an issue . And yes pretty much downshifting gradually all the way down to second gear, and then using the brakes, I hate downshifting into first gear, so I might have done that once and swore I'll never do it again unless my brakes fail, lol. It felt way to "harsh" and abrupt , and well, just seemed like it would cause too much stress .
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first gear is most often a very low ratio, so it would indeed feel abrupt by comparison.  i also do not downshift often into first while moving, but i drove a "crashbox" for 25 years (no synchro in first).  it would not allow you to downshift into first while moving without some awful gear crunching

 

back on topic - as long as you don't change brake pad compound, and as long as there is no bluing, deep grooves, deep edge, or other signs of damage or wear, a pad slap can work fine, and minor rotor issues can be resolved usually be with a surfacing.  i have gotten lucky on this too, especially with soft pads (like OEM) which generally wear much faster than the rotors.

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#24

Wonderful inputs guys. This is what this site is all about. My 968 is safely in the garage. I will work on brakes in January.

Merry Christmas Everyone!!

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#25

What size are the lug nuts?  I need to get a thin wall socket so I can take the wheels off and clean the inside of the rims (when it gets warm).  I don't want to buy an entire set, just the one I need.

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#26

Quote:What size are the lug nuts?  I need to get a thin wall socket so I can take the wheels off and clean the inside of the rims (when it gets warm).  I don't want to buy an entire set, just the one I need.
I believe I bought a 19mm, but a 3/4" socket was pretty close.

 

And I always wrap the socket in a thin layer of electrical tape to minimize damage to the wheel paint.
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And I always wrap the socket in a thin layer of electrical tape to minimize damage to the wheel paint.
 

Great idea!
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#28

Thanks. Some of the thin wall sockets I saw online had a wrap around them. Someone must have figured out that if you're looking at thin wall sockets that size, it's probably for lug nuts and people who care about their wheels.
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#29

Any regular six point deep socket will do (19mm).  I wrapped mine in black racers tape...  Makes it faster than electrical tapeWink  Really you don't even need a deep socket they are just easier.

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#30

it really depends on the wheels.  my HREs needed a thin wall.  my 993 Cup wheels did too, unless i wanted to risk scuffing the paint.  yes, i could get a regular socket in fairly easily, but it was always a concern.  since i showed the car, i didn't want any scuffs down in those holes.  frankly never got around to trying wrapping the socket

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#31

I have a set of these

 

Lovely

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00H8K17IO/r...9594862349
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#32

That looks like what I need.  I have turbo twists and my regular sockets don't fit.

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#33

These look like a pretty good deal!

 

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-1-2-in.../206034080
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Like those, prefer the black to the flashy gold color mine are

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#35

Kind of went low tech at the PCA Concours. Just hand painted the lug nuts with a Q-tip...Worked just fine since I could not get them off......Won the show!!!....what can I say.

 

Brake work resumes in January. My old friends and Porsche master mechanics (Hi-Tec, San Rafael) just told me to come down. They will loosen the nuts for me.

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OK, brake project is on hold for now. I did suffer a small stroke last Sunday so I need to deal with this first. However I did sign up for a tech session at the end of the month. It demonstrate brake replacements and many other things. Held by PCA Redwood zone 7....to be continiued.

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#37

Kaj, we all hope for the best for you and for a quick recovery. And if you need someone to drive your car to keep the battery charged, all you need to do is ask!
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#38

Quote:Kaj, we all hope for the best for you and for a quick recovery.


Ditto ! " Small " or not, it's an episode which should not be taken lightly and ignored ..all the best wishes for a full recovery, and take care of yourself , there are more important things than the 968 ( yes, a sacrilegious statement on this forum , lol ) that deserve greater priority, albeit health is the only such thing ..the 968 comes in a close second . ;-) :-)
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#39

Kaj,

Yes, please do lay low for awhile and give yourself the best opportunity to fully recover.

Without health, nothing else really matters.


Its kind of ironic (and in no way equivalent to your current health problem), but for the past week Ive had to sideline my work on my car while I fight a bout of diverticulitis with antibiotics. So there she sits, up on jackstands waiting.
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Kaj


Put everything else in your life on hold and concentrate on recovery, I know from experience just how long I can take to get these things put behind you


The car is totally irrelevant when your health is concerned, I have had a crap last 7 years and to some extent still recovering, it takes time and that you cannot buy


Wish you a swift and total recovery
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