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apex - 07-20-2005
http://www.deckowski.com/wax%20off/greatwaxoffintro.htm
Eric's going to wish this guy had included Rejex in the line-up! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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apex - 07-20-2005
here's another one
http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html
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968 Cab - 07-21-2005
This is a Zaino finish on my 88 TurboS.... now waiting for my Rejex order to arrive!
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Larry Currie - 07-21-2005
I've used Zaino, then Rejex, and now I'm back to Zaino. I think it gives a deeper wet look shine. I use Rejex on the wheels because of the no stick surface it leaves. I used Dawn to wash the car before going back to Zaino, but it did not remove the Rejex. The water was still beading after two washes.
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94SilverCab - 07-21-2005
This guy was adamant that whatever products were used a clay bar made the results much better.
Has anyone ever posted a top to bottom, step-by-step detailing guide?
My own particular interest is what goes over what or removes what (can Rejex go over Mother's California Gold or do I have to wash with Dawn, etc.)
As always, thanks for your advice.
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RPM - 07-21-2005
This guy is off the charts nuts...
and the world needs nuts.
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flash - 07-21-2005
coincidentally, a complete car detailing guide is being published in the next issue of 9 Magazine
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Ryan - 07-21-2005
You got to love that first guy. I wish I had that much spare time on my hands.
Happy to say I have been using Klasse for some time. I have never used a clay bar, but one in in my future.
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Larry Currie - 07-21-2005
Has anyone tried a Hershey Bar? When I was in basis training in the AF, I had a TI ask me if I'd used a Hershey Bar to shine my shoes. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wacko.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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flash - 07-21-2005
the clay bar really does help a lot - you'll love the results - DON'T DROP IT ON THE GROUND!!!
surprised the first guy didn't include a number of products, but you have to draw the line somewhere in this kind of thing - he has an odd set of mismatched types of products, and conspicuously absent are the newer polymer types (did i miss something?)
cool thing he did though
i'm going to try to find out if the stuff i am using is repackaged by anybody and sold retail so you guys can get it - it's by far the best darned wax i've ever used - expensive, but great and very easy to use
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Mark - 07-21-2005
The first one was done back in '02 so some of the newer /recently popular ones not being in there is not surprising. Been using Klasse for a long time and it has never disappointed me. Used AIO on my wheels 18 months ago and the brake dust barely sticks and what does stick rinses off with the hose.
Clay bar definitely makes a difference as do some of the chemical washes like ABC as they remove the contaminates from your paint. It's amazing what it pulls off of a freshly washed car that hasn't been clay'd in a few thousand miles.
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968Z - 07-21-2005
FWIW..... I've been using NuFinish polymer polish (Yeah, the one in the orange plastic bottle) for 25 years with great results. Plus, if you polish the hull of your sailboat, or bottom of your surfboard, You can feel the improved glide characteristics! There is nothing easier to put on..... Wax on.......Wax off! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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apex - 07-21-2005
In a Klasse/Rejex shootout who would win? <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> Anyone already have both bottles on hand to give it a go?
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Etnier - 07-21-2005
[quote name='Mark' date='Jul 21 2005, 10:15 AM']Clay bar definitely makes a difference as do some of the chemical washes like ABC as they remove the contaminates from your paint. It's amazing what it pulls off of a freshly washed car that hasn't been clay'd in a few thousand miles.[/quote]
Can you post a link or two about ABC?
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Mark - 07-22-2005
[quote name='Etnier' date='Jul 21 2005, 09:50 PM']Can you post a link or two about ABC?
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ValuGuard
I'll look for a couple of others but I don't really remember them off the top of my head. Paint clay was originally designed for removing over spray and has been adopted by detailers for cleaning other stuff off the paint. The benefit to this over claybar is that the claybar gets surface contaminates but not necessarily all of it so something could be left below the surface or level with the surface. There is also less risk of scratching you paint with the chemical wash. The drawback to the decontamination systems is cost and using strong chemicals.
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Etnier - 07-22-2005
Thanks!
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Mark - 07-22-2005
No problem John the other one just hit me.
FinshKare founded by on of the Mequiars family back in the mid '60s. Saw a box of freebies from the area Meguiar rep in the back of the truck just now and it clicked.
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968 Cab - 07-26-2005
Update - Zaino vs Rejex
Got my Rejex order and applied a few 2 coats to the 968Cab on top of the 3 coats of Zaino. Here's the initial impression:
Subjective Results 1-5 with 5 as best/ highest
Zaino / Rejex
Ease of Application 5 / 4
Ease to buff off 5 / 4
Shine after 2 coats 4 / 5
Residue none / slight
Value 4 / 5
Buy Again 5 / 5
Bottom line - while the Rejex is a little more work to apply and buff, and there is a little residue - with a 16 oz bottle vs 8 oz. for Zaino (price now $16.95 for 8oz) there is great value and a little better shine with Rejex. Both use a very thin coat for each application - with Zaino, it's almost imperceptible when you apply a coat, which may be why it buffs to a shine so easily. The first coat of Rejex did not really show a great improvement over Zaino, but with the 2nd coat, the dark color really came to "life" and the depth of shine improved a lot. Went on top of the Zaino without any problem too.
I'll try the Rejex on a lighter metallic next and report on that. For now however, value for money - has to go to Rejex, and if it stands up to the elements all the better. But so far, so good - thanks to Eric for a great product!
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SANDOVAL - 07-27-2005
1st time reading this thread... Pretty interesting. 968 Cab you are going to find that less dust/dirt will stick to the paint in between washes. That is one of my favorite aspects of the product. Also washing will be easier. I also use rejex on the windows it works great to clean/shine the glass and acts as a Rain-X type product. Of course don't forget your wheels and calipers. I am glad you enjoyed the product. The product was designed to make the removal of exhaust residue from the panels on Air Force Jets. Then marketed to prevent bugs from sticking to RV's, & minimizing Brake dust. Or at least making the cleaning process easier. It was discovered by the Porsche Community to use the product as a true polish.
I am not sure if you let the product setup overnight but try leaving it hazed for 8+ hours. It is a very interesting experiment. Apply on a Friday night, park it in the garage and buff out out Saturday morning. The more coats you add the crazier the shine gets.
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968 Cab - 07-27-2005
Thanks for the tips Eric - I already noticed that when buffing out the car with 100% white cotton towels (sans serging) there is much less lint left on the car with Rejex. With Zaino's, I have to apply the Z6 Gloss Enhancer to remove the lint.
Now it makes sense.... all that mil-spec product development! As for windows, I usually make the pass over all the glass - inside and out - after buffing off the paint. There is enough residual product on the buffing towels to do a great job on the glass. I will wash the wheels and apply Rejex on them this weekend. Sounds like lots of others are getting good results on wheels with the product. Thanks again.
Car is getting really shiny <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />