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Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - flash - 01-10-2010
lol - yeah - i knew that
on the gauge, if there is a vacuum line directly connected to it, it should work fine
but, i have no idea if the 951 cluster will work with the 968 DME and senders and such
i'll try to see if i can find a dash shot of the Turbo S and see what they did
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - Johannvb - 01-10-2010
Here ya go
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - flash - 01-10-2010
probably the same cluster as the 951, and therefore should work (assuming they used 968 senders and DME, or that they output the same signals)
i suppose you could just swap out the tach portion to limit crossover issues
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - PorscheDude - 01-10-2010
If it were me, I'd put the boost gauge in place of the clock.
I wear a watch.
I actually took the clock cubby from my 968 and put it in my 951.
The boost knob now resides where the clock was.
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - JWahlsten - 01-10-2010
The 951 boost gauge gets its signal from the KLR. So, you have to feed the boost gauge electronically. Most of us in the 951 world would T off the boost line to plum a "real" gauge in there. The factory gauge doesn't give the most accurate info for higher boost apps.
I had the A-piller gauge on my track car, so I didn't have to look down. With a black pillar and a VDO gauge it matched the interior pretty well.
Oh, one more thing. The signal for the speedo on the two cars is different as well. This is one of the problems with putting the 968 tranny in the 951. The tach signal came out of the DME, so it should be okay.
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - biotechee - 01-11-2010
I personally think the clock is useless - trying to read an analog clock that low on the console is a pain - so, if I were to do the SC kit (or turbo the car for that matter), I would look to somehow replace the clock with a boost gauge. It would be difficult because the clock is "square-ish" while a boost gauge is typically round so getting it to look right would take some time.
As for knowing the time, I would use the watch on my hand or the clock feature on my aftermarket radio.
Never been a fan of pillar gauges, or steering wheel gauge pods either.
I'm sure some creative individual could come up with a solution!
For those with a double DIN head unit, I dunno...
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - flash - 01-11-2010
yeah- this is a tough one -
i agree that the pillar pod is out of place in this car - never liked anthing up there anyway
i also agree that the clock there is superfluous - every deck nowadays has a clock - that being said, i went out of my way to add a clock down there in the gauge pod - if i really had to have a clock, i'd swap out the temp display for one, and swap my mirror out for the same one but with a temp display
guys with double din decks are going to have a challenge if they want the gauge - they may have to go the 951 tach route
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - biotechee - 01-11-2010
Here's a nifty little gauge that could have numerous mounting possibilities...
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/scrip...p?idproduct=131
You can remove it from its bezel apparently and then it could be installed all over the dash.
Here's a rather creative way a BMW owner did:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=925542
While I don't like the "mesh," the overall install is trick.
I like the thought of using a square/rectangle style gauge instead of the tradition round style. Wonder if this one could used to replace the temp gauge?
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - Ryan - 01-11-2010
Bio...good find on that little gem. Looks like it would be easy to integrate into the interior. I don't like what the BMW guy did. The pattern for the metal looks weird and the loss of a vent is a no-go.
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - 968TDG - 01-11-2010
The first thing I noticed when I got in a 968 was how big the air vents are. There is plenty of space if you can figure out a way to add a gauge without it looking mutilated. I have a double din and don't want pillar gauges...I like the idea of the 951 cluster...
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - flash - 01-11-2010
now somebody just needs to figure out how to send it a signal
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - PorscheDude - 01-11-2010
When I installed my boost knob in place of the clock,
I cut a piece of black abs to fit the square cutout. There is enough room
there for a gauge. This would be the simplest soloution, but not ideal.
One could also replace the whole clock/cubby with a gauge panel and run
3 gauges.
Boost/Vacuum
Oil Pressure
Oil Temp
or what ever else is important to the driver.
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - biotechee - 01-11-2010
"now somebody just needs to figure out how to send it a signal"
The gauge I linked to includes the sender, at least it should for the price. Tap into the appropriate vacuum line in the engine bay then run the sender wires accordingly to the gauge in the car's interior.
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - flash - 01-11-2010
yeah - aftermarket gauges are like that
the one i was saying somebody needed to figure out how to send a signal to was the 951 gauge
porschedude - that is exactly what i am already doing, but i have a single din deck, so i can do that
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - biotechee - 01-11-2010
Ahh, well...
Then I would guess you find out what type of signal the 951 gauge takes, then see if an aftermarket sender could do the job... But since the accuracy of the 951 gauge is mediocre, I would still try to figure out something aftermarket that looked "OEM".
Just my $0.02.
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - jfrahm - 01-11-2010
I always felt the 951 boost gauge got a bad rap, it seems dead on accurate in my cars but does lack hash marks for getting a good reading. Also it is an absolute pressure gauge and not a bulb pressure gauge so some people might not understand what it is reading. Maybe that is why people felt it was not accurate.
I've had a few boosted cars without 'proper' boost gauges or even gauges at all (Mustang GT Turbo, Saab 9000CS, VW Passat 1.8T) and absent of tuning I have not really had much of a need for a boost gauge. When tuning I would hook one up and put it on the cowl. I will for sure put one on the 968 to see what it's up to, but I do not know if I will want one installed permanently. In my Saab I would dial back boost for very hot weather and at times did so while out driving, but there is no control for boost on the SC system so the gauge would just be for fun I guess. As the SC is mechanically coupled to the engine and has no wastegate there should not be a lot of surprises as to what the boost is up to.
One could install a bar graph LED indicator in the cluster somewhere. In my case I might plumb a line for one but only hook it up to check out how things are going every now and then, so I could stick a gauge on the windshield and connect it to a nipple under the dash which would otherwise be capped. Since there is nothing to adjust I doubt I'd spend a lot of time looking at the gauge.
I liked the old turbo Trans Am with the boost lights in the hood cowl though.
-Joel.
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - JWahlsten - 01-11-2010
I may have implied that the gauge was inaccurate in the 951, but I would say it is accurate. However, its gradations are junk making it useless for gleaning any real data from it. Now if the gauge were given some better markings and you weren't trying to go beyond 1 bar, it would work.
The problem we have is we don't have the KLR in the 968, so there is no means to drive the gauge.
I like the idea of a small LED type gauge to fit at the base of the gauge pod. The pillar pods may not look the best (in the track car I didn't care), but they are effective and ergonomic...
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - dietrite - 01-18-2010
Can't wait to find out about the '92 rods. I am really considering selling the old Alfa to get some $'s for this conversion. Trouble is, I have a very early '92 (something like #96). Of course, I may have to come out of retirement and get an extra job to afford the other mods that will become necessary.
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - flash - 01-21-2010
ok - after finally deciding to be an adult and go to the doctor, and finding out that i have been fighting a kidney infection now for over 2 weeks, taking a tumble off of a stage last weekend that resulted in bruising that kidney and mangling my back, and also being up for 48 hours straight the same weekend thereby lowering my resistance so that the infection could really take hold, it looks like i am on the mend now and up and moving about again - i will be down in the garage working on this project today and getting back on track - slow going today, and still a ways to go before i am 100%, but i'm back on it
Get Ready - Get Set - BLOW!!!! - 968TDG - 01-21-2010
Were any of the camera's rolling when you took your heroic swan dive? I'm glad you're on the mend because I wasn't looking forward to modding geriatric walkers.
-Phil