[onebadjon]

On the 1993 968 I just purchased (Guards Red), the dealer has told the prior owner the Paint is very "Oxidized" and will get damaged if wash(entitle to a free wash with each service). This has been each year since 20007 when he took it in for service,I have the records going back 10 years.The paint looks good to me. So what is the best way (if possible) to bring the paint back a little? Thanks for the help.........John

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[flash]

find a good detail shop and have it buffed if possible

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[pure&simple]

I have the same color. Guards Red did not get a clear coat, hence the oxidation problem. It starts to look quite faded after spending a lot of time sitting in the sun. It looks like new when it comes back from the detail shop.

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[Darryl]

The key to Flash's statement is finding a "good" detail shop. I simple buff may not last very long...the secret is using the proper chemicals and the correct process. You need/want a multi-step process of clean, polish, seal. Expect to pay 300~400 bucks to have it done correctly. Prices for detailing vary greatly and also the actual level of service. Spend any less and you're probably not getting the right service. Find someone who specifically mentions "paint correction". I'd stay away from mobile operations...go to a real place that is setup for detailing.

With regards to the dealers statement about washing the car doing more damage, it certainly can if done incorrectly and/or the paint is not in good shape to begin with as is your case. Get it properly back in shape and then you can wash safely. Do some poking around on some of the car care websites...most of the detailing forums are frequented by guys who toot their own horns about the amazing job they can do on somebody's 2011 GT3 or 2010 Ferrari. Those cars don't need any REAL cleaning (yet), so take any of that info with a grain of salt, but you will find some good info on washing and general cleaning techniques.

- Darryl

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[DaveN]

For very little money I would try a good washing then apply Klasse AIO with lots of arm action. Then put on Klasse Sealant and see if that makes the car "acceptable". That's what I use and it's very impressive on a clear coated car.

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[rl968]

I had this issue on my 86 911, which has single stage paint (not clear coat). It can be fixed. I used a random orbital sander with an orange pad and some aggressive polish. What you see when are doing it is the pad turns the color of the car, red in my case. Follow this up with a less aggressive polish and a white pad, then wax. Lots of patience and several hours and its done.

BTW, stay away from dealer and automatic car washes, they will leave swirls in your paint

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[Darryl]

rl968 says: "Lots of patience and several hours and its done. "------- absolutely correct, which is why it costs 3 or 4 hundred bucks at a real detailer and not 85.00 from 2 guys in a van!!

DaveN has a good suggestion...Klasse All-In-One may indeed make the car acceptable, but it is not agressive enough to cut through heavy ozidation or deep scratches. It is a great product that goes on and off easy.

Bottom line is that if you don't have the proper tools and proper products, you may be better off letting someone else tackle this for you.

onebadjon, please post a pic or send me a message and I can offer more detailed suggestions.

- Darryl

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[onebadjon]

[quote name='Darryl' date='Sep 25 2010, 04:53 AM' post='98816']
rl968 says: "Lots of patience and several hours and its done. "------- absolutely correct, which is why it costs 3 or 4 hundred bucks at a real detailer and not 85.00 from 2 guys in a van!!

DaveN has a good suggestion...Klasse All-In-One may indeed make the car acceptable, but it is not agressive enough to cut through heavy ozidation or deep scratches. It is a great product that goes on and off easy.

Bottom line is that if you don't have the proper tools and proper products, you may be better off letting someone else tackle this for you.

onebadjon, please post a pic or send me a message and I can offer more detailed suggestions.

- Darryl

Darryl, Thanks for the information. I finally have some pictures to post, if its works

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[Darryl]

That doesn't look bad at all...at least not bad enough not to wash!! Perhaps indoors under flourescent lighting would tell a different tale. Based on the photos, I'd try the Klasse All-In-One using a white pad on a random orbital machine such as the Porter Cable 7424 or Flex 3401 and see if you're happy. Wish you were closer!!

- Darryl

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