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internet b.s. or valid points ?
#1

so this is going around and around via emails recently.. I think even IF all the points are true, the net effect of this is still so negligible ( may be less than 1% impact, I'm guessing <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/huh.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> ) that it's probably a waste of time to follow the suggestions, but posting this nonetheless in case anyone has opinions on the topic :



> > TIPS ON PUMPING GAS

> >

> > I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in

> > California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is

> > in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of

> > your money's worth for every gallon..

> >

> > > Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground

> > temperature is still co ld. Remember that all service stations have their

> > storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the

> > gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or

> > in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum

> > business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet

> > fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.

> >

> > A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the

> > service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

> >

> > When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast

> > mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)stages: low,

> > middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby

> > minimizing the vapors that are creat ed while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump

> > have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid

> > that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and

> > back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your

> > money.

> >

> > One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL

> > or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank

> > the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can

> > imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof

> > serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes

> > the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that

> > we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact

> > amount.

> >

> > Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage

> > tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being

> > stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the

> > dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the

> > most value for your money.

> >

>
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[quote name='ds968' post='49263' date='Mar 14 2008, 09:24 AM']> > One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL

> > or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank

> > the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can

> > imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof

> > serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes

> > the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that

> > we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact

> > amount.



>[/quote]



Thanx, never heard that one before.



However it seems to work the opposite in my cars. Judging by the needle, it seems that my car goes to half a tank faster then it does from 1/2 to E. Nothing scientific done to explain this, but after fill ups It appears that from F to 1/2 gets me, say 200 miles while 1/2 to E gets like 260 before I get the light.
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[quote name='rhudeboye' post='49265' date='Mar 14 2008, 10:02 AM']Thanx, never heard that one before.



However it seems to work the opposite in my cars. Judging by the needle, it seems that my car goes to half a tank faster then it does from 1/2 to E. Nothing scientific done to explain this, but after fill ups It appears that from F to 1/2 gets me, say 200 miles while 1/2 to E gets like 260 before I get the light.[/quote]

Some valid points there Dan, remember the F1 teams that were under scrutiny last year for having lower temperture fuel than allowed, makes it more dense therfor burns better, just a thought pazzer.
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[quote name='rhudeboye' post='49265' date='Mar 14 2008, 10:02 AM']However it seems to work the opposite in my cars. Judging by the needle, it seems that my car goes to half a tank faster then it does from 1/2 to E. Nothing scientific done to explain this, but after fill ups It appears that from F to 1/2 gets me, say 200 miles while 1/2 to E gets like 260 before I get the light.[/quote]



strange cars these are.. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> - my 968's needle function is the opposite of yours; I always seem to get huge mileage numbers with the first 1/4, and first 1/2 in general, though proportionally the second 1/4 sems less than the first, but then the last half of tank goes so quickly I wonder if the tank is leaking <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> .

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the needle reading in many, if not all of our cars has an inherent fault and is certainly inconsistent from one car to another.



There were quite a few posts a while back about the needles not going all the way to the top bar on fill ups, so I suppose it's just one of those rare imperfections in 968s <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> But I digress <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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[quote name='pazzer' post='49266' date='Mar 14 2008, 01:06 PM']Some valid points there Dan, remember the F1 teams that were under scrutiny last year for having lower temperture fuel than allowed, makes it more dense therfor burns better, just a thought pazzer.[/quote]



Looks like Button is gonna have another crap year.
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[quote name='smokiemon968' post='49270' date='Mar 14 2008, 10:33 AM']Looks like Button is gonna have another crap year.[/quote]

Cheers Pat!!!!! wait untill mr Brawn sorts the team then we will see, button will come good sooner or later, he he he p.s hows the strut brace coming on any news dude, no hurry off to mauritius on sunday for 2 weeks, see if i can spot some 968's over there, not??????
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Honda is not going anywhere if they keep wearing those awful green pants. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> What were they thinking?



[Image: f1-2008-aus-xp-0126.jpg]

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I'm pretty sure the point about filling up at half tank is valid, I know in my old 944 the fuel gauge in the cluster compensates for that, marking 3/4 tank closer to 4/4 than a true 3/4, 1/2 a little closer than 1/2 way, etc.... Thought gravity had something to do with that, too... somehow giving you better gas mileage the first half tank than the second half.
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Please tell me he's not the driver.



[Image: f1-2008-aus-xp-0126.jpg]







[quote name='Eric_K' post='49273' date='Mar 14 2008, 11:09 AM']What were they thinking?[/quote]



Earth day. Perhaps they should compete in a hybrid.







[quote name='J.C.' post='49280' date='Mar 14 2008, 12:00 PM']I'm pretty sure the point about filling up at half tank is valid, I know in my old 944 the fuel gauge in the cluster compensates for that, marking 3/4 tank closer to 4/4 than a true 3/4, 1/2 a little closer than 1/2 way, etc.... Thought gravity had something to do with that, too... somehow giving you better gas mileage the first half tank than the second half.[/quote]



Im going to monitor my next fill using the trip set and get some numbers. One thing about my 68 is it is not a DD. So it take me awhile to burn through a tank.
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[quote name='rhudeboye' post='49281' date='Mar 14 2008, 12:07 PM']Please tell me he's not the driver.



[Image: f1-2008-aus-xp-0126.jpg]

Earth day. Perhaps they should compete in a hybrid.

Im going to monitor my next fill using the trip set and get some numbers. One thing about my 68 is it is not a DD. So it take me awhile to burn through a tank.[/quote]





My guess is he's the lunch guy. Probably gets a lot of ceaser salads.
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#11

I've seen these suggestions before and I typically buy fuel early in the day or anytime during cold weather. The temperature controversy was in the news within the last year. And, [of course] the petroleum companies jumped in and said not to worry. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



The last suggestion is more for older cars that don't have vapor recovery. And, even if it does vaporize - once the tank cools it'll re-condense. On a side note, cars with in tank pumps, the fuel helps to keep it cool and thereby increasing it's life.



re: F gauge; after seeing the construction of the volt meter, it's not surprizing to read the inconsistency from 1 car to another. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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holy <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> ! just looked at the photos.. MY EYES ! AW, MY EYES ! THEY'RE BURNING ! HELP, I ALSO FEEL SEIZURES COMING ON !
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#13

I would guess that the difference between the first and last half on the gauge is only calibration issues with the gauge itself. Mine is the same in both 968s and in my Cayenne. Neither of my 968 gauges ever show full when filled up. However, I do agree with the comments about cold gas.
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#14

The temperature variation day to night in underground storage is small to nothing. There would be little or no effect on fuel volume. However, if a truck just arrived, it could be putting warmer gas into the below ground tank as well as stirring up sediment, so that would be logical to avoid. Probably not worth worring about.

Cheers,
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#15

Maybe Honda wants it to be St. Patricks day everyday.



You gotta think when the team got the kit someone must have said "I AM NOT WEARING THAT! I look like a Leprecon".
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hey look, Honda also found a clever storage space for the spare tire <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



   



( right, I should talk... this is a compact compared to the full size one I'm carrying <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/mad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> )
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[quote name='sguy' post='49389' date='Mar 17 2008, 12:37 PM']The temperature variation day to night in underground storage is small to nothing. There would be little or no effect on fuel volume.[/quote]



Would have to agree.



When I take my 2gl gas container to the station and buy 2 gallons of gas its full. 2 gallons is a small amount but I'm buying this in the heat of summer for my lawn mower. If they are shorting me on gas its not noticeable.
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[quote name='rhudeboye' post='49437' date='Mar 18 2008, 12:44 PM']Would have to agree.



When I take my 2gl gas container to the station and buy 2 gallons of gas its full. 2 gallons is a small amount but I'm buying this in the heat of summer for my lawn mower. If they are shorting me on gas its not noticeable.[/quote]



Thats a good point.

At the end of the day I can not get excited about beating the sysytem (or loosing) 42 cents.
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