[rustech]

Since I'm excited to be getting to move into my new garage early next year that's being built (who cares about the house it's attached to. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> ) Last night, I played with SolidWorks to try to put my thoughts into an image. I will be making a new one to the precise scale, but these give a rough idea.



There are some heavy duty support beams that aren't in the pictures that run across laterally; the top of the garage. I will include a more detailed version later.



There is a bathroom on the opposite side of the garage sink. I wish I could put the sink elsewhere, but I don't see how I could get the plumbing to work. If it stays where it lays, I have to make sure it doesn't petrude from the wall too far. Also, having the hotwater line is a benefit for degreasing parts.



Too bad the water heater sits in that corner. I wonder how I can make that corner look more appealing?



I plan on enclosed cabinets everywhere I can put them, a 4 post lift, a garage sink, faux brick on some of the walls, epoxy flooring, a long & strong work bench, ...

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[EEZATOY]

Russ,



Go with a tankless waterheater (flash) - it will just tack on the wall, then you could put the sink under it...

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[flash]

yeah - those electrical ones are cool for that kind of occasional use

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[SANDOVAL]

I actually like the placement of the sink it will be nice to wash your hands before going into the house. I would keep your eye out for a SS industrial kitchen sink. They make some great sinks that are deep but narrow and long in profile. I would use rolling cabinets to box the Hot water heater in. that way you can get to it if need be but you don't have to see it everyday.



If you don't like the placement, Why don't you tap your water supply off of the water coming in and out of the hot water heater?



Have you decided on cabinets? Did you check out the Stack-on cabinets at sears. For the price you can't beat them especially when they go on sale. Moto floor is on sale right now at costco. The discount is not as great as last time (I guess they learned their lesson) but it is still pretty reasonable for Race Deck.



That will be a fun space to build out!

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[rustech]

You're talking about a small water heater just for the sink? It's a good idea, but I still need to be able to tie into the sewer line. That's two reasons why the sink has to go there.

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[flash]

eric - when you come over to install the chassis brace, you can see the stack on stuff and moto floor here

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[SANDOVAL]

How high is the ceiling? I think bob has every version of the stack on stuff... sears is now backordered for 2 years due to his purchase.

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[rustech]

[quote name='SANDOVAL' date='Nov 10 2005, 10:22 AM']I actually like the placement of the sink it will be nice to wash your hands before going into the house. I would keep your eye out for a SS industrial kitchen sink. They make some great sinks that are deep but narrow and long in profile. I would use rolling cabinets to box the Hot water heater in. that way you can get to it if need be but you don't have to see it everyday.



If you don't like the placement, Why don't you tap your water supply off of the water coming in and out of the hot water heater?



Have you decided on cabinets? Did you check out the Stack-on cabinets at sears. For the price you can't beat them especially when they go on sale. Moto floor is on sale right now at costco. The discount is not as great as last time (I guess they learned their lesson) but it is still pretty reasonable for Race Deck.



That will be a fun space to build out!

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Great advice! If you come across a good buy on a deep, low profile, long sink, please let me know. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



I very well could tap the in/out water lines to the water heater, but I wonder where I can tie into the sewer at. The current location might interfere with parking on the front two bays.



I will check out the stack-on cabinets. The Costco sets look quite nice also.



Have any heating advice? Could tap the gas line to the water heater, or just run electric.

eric - when you come over to install the chassis brace, you can see the stack on stuff and moto floor here

Sounds good. I hope it's still a go for this weekened. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[flash]

don't laugh - i actually did clean them out - i had to wait for 4 weeks for a couple of the cabinets

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[rustech]

The ceiling is only 9ft. I wish they were at least a foot taller, but they are what they are since living space is partially ontop of the garage. Doesn't look like I'll be double stacking cars <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[SANDOVAL]

Sink... watch ebay they pop up all the time. Or find a used resturaunt supply store.



Drain... I thought about that after I posted. Do you have a centralized drain in the garage?



Cabinets... The Costco SS cabinets I hink are discontinued. they did have another plastic/alum set but they were junk. The stack on were a fraction of the cost and really nice. Plus they come in a variety of combinations. I really do like them.



Heat... get your CC out... I paid $150 for this one when it went on clearence the first time. I ordered natural gas and then dicided it will be a bitch to run a line. So I sent it back for a full refund. I was looking for barstool for our new bar in the den and I noticed they took an additional mark down. So I picked up the propane version. You will need 2 as they cover 450Sqft. You can't beat this deal at $75!



http://www.frontgate.com/fg/pdp.jsp?prod_o...arch=y&cursor=7

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[EEZATOY]

Russ,



No I'm talking a whole house water heater - when we moved into our new to us house - the laundry was in the kitchen and in the hall between the bedrooms was a closet that housed the furnace(needed to be replaced circa 1960) and waterheater (tank). We replaced the HAVOC and put it in the ceiling and replace the waterheater with a Takagi T-K1S. This created space for a stacked washer/dryer and a cabinet in the hall closet and the old laundry is going to be a walk-in pantry.



The T-K1S works great - we've had both showers and the washing machine going at the same time and no shortage of hot water. It takes a larger gas line (3/4" I think) and needs a stainless steel vent - but as long as your building you can incorporate those into your plans - and as long as you have gas you will never run out of hot water....

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[94SilverCab]

Any chance you could expand the alcove and recess the sink?

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[rustech]

Eric,

I'll keep my eyes open on ebay for a sink.



There is no center drain in the middle of the floor if that's what you mean. The entire garage has a gradual pitch to evac water out towards the front of the garage for drainage rather than a center drain.



Thanks for the heater tip on Frontgate. My order has been placed. I went with the natural gas. (your house runs on propane? or do you have a mini tank for your heater?)



I will have a looksy at Bob's cabinets. I'm sure I'll like them.





EEZATOY,

The home being built is by "Standard Pacific." It's not a custom job, so I don't have a lot of say, only in options.



94SilverCab,

The house is on the other side of that wall where the sink lies. Any modifications I do, would interfere with the house.

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[SANDOVAL]

House is NG but the detached garage is 1928 spec no plumbing just electrical. So I would have to run a new line to the garage. I will use the propane tank I always have at least two filled for the BBQ at any given time.



Those heaters look good too.

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[Mark]

[quote name='SANDOVAL' date='Nov 10 2005, 01:46 PM']Heat... get your CC out...  I paid $150 for this one when it went on clearence the first time. I ordered natural gas and then dicided it will be a bitch to run a line. So I sent it back for a full refund. I was looking for barstool for our new bar in the den and I noticed they took an additional mark down. So I picked up the propane version. You will need 2 as they cover 450Sqft. You can't beat this deal at $75!



http://www.frontgate.com/fg/pdp.jsp?prod_o...arch=y&cursor=7

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Have you fired one up yet? Might have to pick up two or three of these in the propane version since I have a 500 gallon tank in the ground.



Tankless is defintely the way to go since it only uses energy when needed. If I had the choice I would have put one in and still may replace the 75 and 50 gallon heaters that I have even though they are less than 3 years old.

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[968gene]

try a used restaurant supply store for a stainless sink...heavy duty and less cost.

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[BruceWard]

Eric,



I drywalled in my water heater with side panels that can easily be removed with four screws. There is a frame made of 2x2s around the water heater including a small rack for the stereo built into the top then covered with pieces of drywall. This is a real easy project since you can cut the drywall with a utility knife. Between the 2x2s and drywall parts cost is probably no more than $30.



Although my water heater is electric and this would not be suitable for a gas water heater.

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[rustech]

Thanks for the recommendation Bruce, it looks nice. Can't hardly tell where it is. In my last garage, I built a wall and drywalled it, so the waterheater was only visibe from the side. I've always heard that you should never enclose a gas water heater, but if I left vents top and bottom??...I wonder if it would be ok.

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[rustech]

Thanks Gene, I will try to find one near me. So far, ebay has a lot of cheap stainless sinks.

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