[Fox944]

[quote name='White968' timestamp='1351834662' post='134329']968 safe in the parking garage during the storm in my building. We never lost power or our Directv (Large HD Dish). We live on the Hudson River with direct wind. The storm surge covered the southbound tracks in 3' water to NYC on Metro North. My neighborhood fared well and I thought this hurricane was over hyped in my area until I

returned to work and relized that it was a war zone everywhere else. No Joke....and the gas crisis![/quote]



My best friend lives on the Hudson River very close to you. His building was evacuated for several days. 4' of water on the 1st floor. He lives right by X2O.

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[flash]

white - yes, it is scary. while certainly industry is a very large contributor to the C02 emissions that cause this shift, another very large contributor is the over-swollen population. the planet cannot sustain the number of people breathing, yet we continue to allow people to breed unchecked. it's bad enough there isn't enough food to feed them all. there isn't enough filtering of the C02 either. we continue to rape the rain forests, which are our only existing defense against rising C02 levels, while at the same time exacerbating the problem by increasing emissions.



the outlook is not good. i've seen reports that have estimates that in 40 years we will not have adequate air

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[White968]

Bob, I really do agree with you on this....On the C02 Levels and on the population.

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[White968]

One more thing, these "Super Storms" bring my construction company alot of work.

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[Rap]

Or be hampered by union rule!

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[94SilverCab]

Last night brought us "Athena" (who knew they are now naming winter storms?).



While our area had only a couple of inches of snow, the worst hit areas were the same ones hit hardest by Sandy.



Electric companies that had to deal with 2 Millions homes without power had reduced that number to 300,000 since last week. yesterday's storm brought the number back up to 400,000.



It's gonna be a LONG Winter....



Jay

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[ebarone968]

Lost power in some areas again but no way as bad as Sandy. I am leaving the Porsche on higher ground for awhile................

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[Gotter]

Jay - It's still Autumn...... <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/glare.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Rap]

Jay stock up on wine and got one of them thar generators that automatically turn on when the power goes out. Think Melva loves you now. She will be your virtual slave. Liz loves it although she might not agree with the slave comment! Lol

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[rl968]

We got hit harder than sandy on this one. Still without power, many trees down due to. Foot of heavy wet snow. Trees weren't ready for it yet. I had a 30 foot pear tree split in half. Armageddon isn't far behind!

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[94SilverCab]

RAP,



I'm looking for a sustainable way to suvive relatively long periods without a generator (which mainly means refrigeration). Strategies include; food storage (also I have a huge deer population close by), water (gray water and cistern) and supplies. Renewable/sustainable energy (solar/wind/geothermal) cooking/heating (wood) along with hard currency (not just cash but coins, wine, etc.). In a real emergency I'd like to be able to hunker down for a minimum of 60 days (I'm an optimist).



Jay

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[banditsc]

Sounds like you need one of these.. I'm sure you could use it as a wine cellar to.. http://www.disasterbunkers.com

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[flash]

i'd do it here, but we REALLY want to build new. the plan at that time is to be completely off the grid and self contained. we would still tie in, but have the ability to store energy, collect and store water, power the house via solar, and also have a generator on multiple fuel sources.



none of this is terribly difficult if you start new. it's a bit of a pain to retrofit though.

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[ebarone968]

Jay,

I hope I don't find you hunkering down in a tent with your wine buried in the back yard next time I am out your way !

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[ds968]

[quote name='94SilverCab' timestamp='1352477856' post='134647']

RAP,



I'm looking for a sustainable way to suvive relatively long periods without a generator (which mainly means refrigeration). Strategies include; food storage (also I have a huge deer population close by), water (gray water and cistern) and supplies. Renewable/sustainable energy (solar/wind/geothermal) cooking/heating (wood) along with hard currency (not just cash but coins, wine, etc.). In a real emergency I'd like to be able to hunker down for a minimum of 60 days (I'm an optimist).

Jay

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Sheesh, what's up with this survivorlist mentality ?! The " World War Z " movie is not even out yet ( though I'm sure many have seen the trailers ) and you guys are already stocking up for a Zombie attack. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/dry.png" class="smilie" alt="" /> That said, nothing better than wine supplies to take care of all one's needs . <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.png" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Rap]

DS jay is watching Revolution on Monday nite. Jay you fail to mention weapons to defend yourselves. If you find a need to hunker down for that long I fear things may be more serious than all your supplies and contingencies are prepared to deal with. I've always felt $50,000, a passport, couple of alternative identities, the ability to change your looks and a well thought out plan to escape would have more value in a pinch!

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[94SilverCab]

Before you all think I've lost my mind, I have not gone off the deep end into survivalist mode. I have always planned for the worst and a good deal of my profession is related to strategic planning and risk assessment/management.



I live in a suburb of Philadelphia, PA and am geographically between Philadelphia and New York City. Either city could be a target for a serious attack by either terrorists or an enemy nation. I am not paranoid that "evil doers" would choose my hometown as a specific target. However, I believe that the biggest threat to my own security would be the results of a cyber attack that takes down the grid (or a natural disaster of huge proportions), or a chem./dirty bomb/bio attack that could leave us quarantined for a number of weeks. A direct nuclear attack would be a crap shoot, so I'm not making any specific plans for that event. In the cases I am planning for, there would be little time to run out to the grocery store at the last minute. That is why I'd prefer to be prepared and not have to rely on the "market" for availability of fuel, food, or ice. Rather than storing a warehouse full of items I'd like to see how much I can do without, or use available resources (wind/solar/well water, etc.) before I rely on items which are not renewable in my own yard.





RAP, I didn't mention my security plans because the first layer of security is to not tell anyone what you have planned...we have one.



Jay

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[Langley968]

"do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own"

Not ALWAYS applicable, but this has served me well for 47 years, so I'm sticking to it!



If a dister strilkes, I would be in the "thick of it" assisting those who need it; NOT hunkered down in my own little fortress.

My "World View" (the framework of ideas and beliefs through which an individual, group or culture interprets the world and interacts with it) dictates how I live my life.

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[ds968]

Yikes ! Another monster hurricane with nearly the same ( expected ) intensity of Katrina . Wishing all the best to our east coast forum members and families for the next few days, it's looking pretty ugly .

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[Kaj Hallstrom]

According to Trump and the Republican Party the global warming is all a hoax and completely made up by the Democrats.......A classic case of total denial!!

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