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European 968CS and importation
#1

I was wondering if anyone had information in regards to importing a Club Sport from Europe.



From research I have found that there are two in the country and I feel that having a Club Sport would be a really unique Porsche to have.



Thanks in advance for the feed back.
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#2

While not having the exact knowledge of a 968 club sport - I was stationed in Germany for 9 years, here's what I know about bringing over cars:



1. Unless you're bringing over an older car, it has to meet the EPA and USDOT standards - that means all the smog crap and the shatterproof windows and huge bumpers. Whether a club sport does or not I don't know, but I doubt it.



2. There are two main exemptions to this - age and for racing only. It used to be that cars 9 years old or older could be exempt from the smog restrictions. On the racing category, I read an article that the way they finally were able to bring in the 959's was to 'swear that it will not be driven more than 25 miles a year on the road'. Driving on a race track was allowed.



So you have your homework cut out for you. If all you want to do is race or show the car, then it might not be a big deal. But if you want to drive it as your daily driver, you're in for quite an experience in "Governmentium".



Happy trails...
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#3

Importing a club sport is more expensive than upgrading a US 968 to a similar specification. You should expect to spend at least $12.5K and a year of time on top of the purchase price to ship and federalize it.



Joska brought his own from Germany and had a lot of trouble getting it federalized. He was selling it due to moving back to Germany but I believe he took it back to Germany with him. One of the last for sale threads on 968.net is at http://65.61.16.109/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10532 .



There are more than two in the US, but you are correct that they are very rare here.



Although if you wanted it just to have in the garage or as a non street track car importing would be much easier.
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Mkaenel, your best bet would be to contact one or both of the owners who have gone through the Federalization process. Joska is one and David Petiti in Denver is the other one I know about. Good luck, Bob Blackwell.
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#5

thanks for all hte feed back.



Hopefully I can start the long process soon.
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#6

I believe that Joska's CS is back in Germany. But it should be at the top of your list as I assume that having already been federalized it would be a much easier import.
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Does anyone have David Petiti e-mail adress or username so I can look him up for contact?
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I think that Chris Lennon (coloradocab on this site) knows how to contact him, David has done work on his 968. Good luck, Bob Blackwell.
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[quote name='mkaenel' date='Dec 11 2005, 03:27 AM']I was wondering if anyone had information in regards to importing a Club Sport from Europe.



From research I have found that there are two in the country and I feel that having a Club Sport would be a really unique Porsche to have. 



Thanks in advance for the feed back.

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Hi

There may be a option to get 968CS.



I recently purchased Black 968CS just 43,000km (about 28,000 mile) on the clock in Japan.

As I live in Tokyo, I do not have to federalized my car though.

There are some importers of Japanese car in L.A. who look for the car in Japan and send to the West coast.

You may find them on Japanese car magazine in the States, or try Googgle with "Skyline GT-R".

I've seen that Japanese monster once in S.F. bay area which was imported from Japan and federalized a couple of years ago.



The price range of 968CS in Japan is from $15k to $30k when I checked ads.

Most of them are less than 60k miles.



The differences of 968CS specification between Europe and Japan are as follows.

1. equipped Air conditioner :Must have this to survive for humid summer in Japan ;-)

2. equipped powered window :Also must have this to get through a lot of toll stations where we need to open the passenger side of window.

3. radio

4. head lights Big Grinrivers keep to the left side of the road in our country

5. Motor and management are different to pass emission regulation in Japan as strict as in California, and to use 95 octane gasoline.



1320kg(2910lb) 100lb lighter than normal 968, other figures are same as in Europe.



Down side

You need to learn Japanese to find ads and buy it. :-)

Japanese version is heavier than that of in Europe because of A/C and power window.

You still need federalization.



It's not from Europe. However, I hope my information can help you.



regards
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#10

I have looked into this in the past, and from my experience I decided the cost of federalizing a car is simply not worth it. I also think the differences between the CS and regular US car are too small to justify the "CS" logo premium. And at least that seems to be the case in the UK.



There are actually quite a few more CS's in the states than 2, but almost all are used exclusively for the track. If that is your intention I say go for it.



Dave Petiti is a good contact as is Steve Patti who runs the euro-rs.com website.



Here's a question: Did Joska have to "unfederalize" his car when bringing it back to Germany? That would suck.



Good luck with your pursuit.
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#11

I don't believe RHD are allowed in the US - that's why we don't see the fabulous Skyline GTR here...
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[quote name='S_Cal968' date='Mar 1 2006, 01:55 PM']I don't believe RHD are allowed in the US - that's why we don't see the fabulous Skyline GTR here...

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RHD is perfectly legal here (just ask Jag owners and the Post Office). The thing with the Skyline is there were other federalization issues. Also because of the layout of the engine components, there was some huge thing that had to be changed that made it nearly impossible to make the car LHD and salable to the general public.



Grey market federalizers do exist though - Motorex for one.
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The articles I read must've had to do with the GTR. According to the NHTSA, RHD cars are allowed, however there are some restriction at the national level, [Calif. probably has some restriction too]...
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