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End of an Era!
#21

Have a nice bottle of scotch ready to toast you with.
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#22

Ok Rap, marriage always raises the concepts of fidelity, commitment, faithfulness and truth and honesty......

 

So remember, we as gentlemen are always ethical, honest, committed, and truthful in all of our affairs.  We will never, ever lie to anyone..... but there are two allowable exceptions:

- The IRS

- When your wife asks if you like her new dress, your answer is always:  _________________?

 

Congratulations!
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Roland

'93 Coupe Tip Silver on Grey, '02 911 C4S, '89 Vanagon Syncro -- (RIP: 944, 911SC, 931, MGB, VW Bug, GTO, Sprite.)
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#23

Quote:So remember, we as gentlemen are always ethical, honest, committed, and truthful in all of our affairs. !

Hmm, " affairs " ?! interesting choice of terminology there, Roland ...that sentence could be interpreted to contain quite a bit of hypocrisy, LOL.
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#24

Having watched the last year of political candidates, I am learning how to spin things.  Consider for example my choice of wording "... truthful in all of our affairs." could be interpreted as truthful "within" the affair.  And so we might conclude that you have to be truthful with your girlfriend but not with those who are "outside" of the affair.  It depends on what the meaning of "in" is ........ or is is ......... or is in ...........or in in ..........  or ... (Bubba, please help me here?).

 

Oh I don't know, it's always a challenge, I've always found it difficult to be truthful at the same time with both my wife and girlfriend.  I've found it is usually simpler if they simply meet each other, and then everyone can just openly share the truth.  Rock

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Roland

'93 Coupe Tip Silver on Grey, '02 911 C4S, '89 Vanagon Syncro -- (RIP: 944, 911SC, 931, MGB, VW Bug, GTO, Sprite.)
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#25

So true! But I have heard it's easier if the wife and girlfriend are twins.

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1992 968 Cabriolet

Volvo S60 Turbo AWD

Lexus RX 300 AWD

 
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#26

Congratulations from me as well!

... or did you decide for this option after all? Smile

 

> I've chartered a plane and have it on hold till 4:00 PM in the event I decide to change my mind and make a run for it!

 

 

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#27

My wife reminds me she is also my only girlfriend. Tongue

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#28

No the die is cast. Nice day no complications. Glad it's over and life goes on. So far same as. Cars are acknowledged to be a non discuss able item,as are horses!
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#29

Hey Bob, given your origins / ethnicity , here's a question for you : How is HAMILTON ( the new Broadway sensation ) similar to an Italian wedding ?


Wait for it....wait for it....


Both are a sure bet for ending up with a lot of Tonys ! :-)
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#30

Well, my wife of 42 years truly believe that buying the 968 was a bad investment (she is an accountant) I am trying to proof her wrong. We have these senior arguments all the time. Kind of what marriage is all about. I am hoping to win this one since I seem to loose most other ones which involves money...darn accountants!!
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#31

You need to move the coversation from investment to entertainment.  the car is not an investment, it's a reward for all the hard work you did in your career.  and it's cheaper than therapy Rock

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#32

Sure the 968 may not be a good investment , per se, but neither is spending money on most hobbies and passions ( whether on horses or on flowers for the garden, or wine, or clothes , or a multitude of other things which makes someone smile ..) it's the intrinsic value of it to which financial sense must never be applied . IMO
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#33

Ethnic background? Geesh. Funny you mention Hamilton. My buddy wanted to give us tickets as a present. I figured we would never be able to find time to fit it in. Your wife is right it's not a good investment. The real question is why are you even having these conversations? Better to beg forgiveness than ask permission!
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#34

Early in our marriage my new wife tried to convince me that I should get rid of the 968 due to the high cost of maintenance/mile. I enthusiastically agreed since I would have more money to spend on mistresses, gambling and alcohol...12 Years happily married Smile

 

Jay 

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#35

It may not be a good investment, but it is at least an investment. Compared to the loss in value our Volvo and Lexus have experienced since purchase, the 968 is a blue-chip stock. And the dividends cannot be measured using dollars and cents. I drove mine to Carson City yesterday for POST graduation (an event and drive that I generally do not relish). I arrived in a great mood, the event was a success, and I had a built in excuse if I had been pulled over by a trooper (I'm in a hurry to see your fellow officers graduate, now how about an escort!).

 

Porsche, still a lot cheaper than a cheerleader and a lawyer!
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1992 968 Cabriolet

Volvo S60 Turbo AWD

Lexus RX 300 AWD

 
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#36

I think the 968 is a great investment depending on your own use and plans for the car, and only if you cherish the car.  Consider that over the 10 past years of ownership, values have not gone down at all, and I think are somewhat higher.  For one possible comparison, a new BMW now 10 years old is likely a loss of $40,000.  Sure 968s require some maintenance, but unless there is something serious, then it will only be (I am guessing) $500 - $1,500 a year for maintenance in the category of "old car repairs" (can't count normal maintenance here).  So let's take the max, and $1,500 is $125.00 per month. 

 

Mine is daily driver, enjoy it every day, this 968 and the '82 911 I drove for 11 years were the least expensive, most enjoyable, and most reliable cars I have ever seen or had.   Now please tell me what other car, of the 968 quality and desirability, looks, performance can I have for $125.00 per month without any depreciation?

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'93 Coupe Tip Silver on Grey, '02 911 C4S, '89 Vanagon Syncro -- (RIP: 944, 911SC, 931, MGB, VW Bug, GTO, Sprite.)
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#37

I just took a look at the spreadsheet I keep on the money I have spent on my 968 over the past 10 years and 30,000 miles of ownership.  I bought the best one I could find and had an extensive PPI done. So it was at the higher end of the price spectrum, but a little less than it would sell for now. It also had the pinon bearing replaced, a new clutch and some other expensive repairs just before I bought it. So I was ok with the price. While I have spent some excessive and unnecessary (per my accountant) money on it, I see most is in the category of "improvements" and "annual service" and consumables such as tires rather than in repairs.  Relatively little has ever actually broken (worst was the heater control valve which blew out 4 blocks from a service shop (thankfully) and I had the metal upgrade HCV in my car just waiting for the opportunity to replace the stupid plastic OEM part.).  So while my "cost/mile" is high, my "smiles/mile" is quite a bit higher. And that's how I measure my car!

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#38

And who said it's not an investment. Compare it to most other cars in the same price range, where do they go in value?.....yes, down the drain. When you own a Porsche (we have touched this subject many times before) it comes the high maintenance. What you have to do is get one in really good shape and then don't "fiddle" with it too much. Pretty much similar to a winemaker trying to "doctor" a wine. The more you change or add the worse it gets. There will always be expensive maintenance and repairs. I am trying to take three steps forward before I get a two step back penalty.

 

You can keep your Nissan, your Volvo and your Toyota super well maintained........the value will still drop year after year.

 

...That's why a 968 is a bit different....and the 928's will soon join the party as well.

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#39

Well,for me a good investment would have to produce more wealth than the capital I invested. That hasn't happened with my 968. Maybe if I'd bought that Ferrari Daytona for $3,000 back in '74 that I passed on I would have had a car that was a good investment. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy my 968 and I don't regret the money I have spent, it just doesn't make the grade as a good financial investment


Took a drive on one of my favorite nearby roads today, 2 hrs of adrenaline rush! And am still impressed with the handling in the twisties! The new M030 bars were quite noticable. High on the smiles/dollar scale today.
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#40

I just read about the top countries' divorce rates ( as of the latest survey in 2015 )  :

10. USA: 53%

 

9. France: 55%

 

8. Cuba: 56%

 

7. Estonia: 58%

 

6. Luxembourg: 60%

 

5. Spain: 61%

 

4. Czech Republic: 66%

 

3. Hungary: 67%

 

2. Portugal: 68%

 

1. Belgium: 71%  

 

So  RAP,  you have a 47% chance of making this last  Wink  Tongue      And  Bulti  -  WTF is happening there ?   Blush  :o 
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