02-01-2008, 01:09 AM
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02-02-2008, 01:02 AM
[quote name='Renalicious' post='46695' date='Jan 31 2008, 08:09 PM']Doh! Pete, my heart felt condolences to you and your family <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/sad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />[/quote]
Pete,
I am very sorry to read about your loss.
Brian
Pete,
I am very sorry to read about your loss.
Brian
02-02-2008, 06:16 AM
Must be one of the hardest things in life to deal with. My condolences to you.
02-02-2008, 06:34 AM
As for the topic in this thread, there is a lot of information out there. I think the easiest way to go has been suggested and that's to buy and build up a 951 engine and do the transplant. You can also adapt a 968 'box to fit and again this draws differing opinions but there are plenty out there who think the 6 speed is stronger than the 5 speed. A lot of high hp racing 951's have a 968 box in there. If you're only shooting for 350-400whp (and this is a very quick car!), you will be fine with most of the stock driveline components. Also as discussed by me and Flash, you will or should really budget for suspension and brake upgrades too. If you want more than 350-400whp you can still do this but might need to enlarge the 2.5L out to 2.7L, 2.8L, or 3.0L+ by a variety of ways. I am doing a 3.0L 8v as we speak (pistons went in today) that is from a 2.5L and dry sleeved out. It will have a number of upgraded components and be approx 500hp at the crank we figure. The advantage of the turbo (2.5L) block is the bespoke turbo mount/inlet etc. I also have a larger 16v motor being built too, but that will have many custom components on it and is not really a good example for this topic.
I know Mike with the 3.0S2 cabriolet that you've all been mentioning. His car was very well done, but it went pop and now he's shooting for 500-600hp at the crank. Also Zoran's car has been through many metamorphoses and had LOTS of money spent on it.
I have another friend down here who is doing his 968 and that will have the turbo on the exhaust side way up front (this is going to need lots of R&D!) so there are lots of us down under continuing to play around with these front engined water pumpers. I think if you absolutely have to have a turbo'd car you should stick to the 951. Even so there are ways to do it and ways not to. Unless you really have a great deal of money to blow on this, you will most likely run into issues.
The only other guy that I would read up on is Markus on Rennlist who did a great job with his Orange 'Jaegermeister' 968. Well worth reading up on.
I know Mike with the 3.0S2 cabriolet that you've all been mentioning. His car was very well done, but it went pop and now he's shooting for 500-600hp at the crank. Also Zoran's car has been through many metamorphoses and had LOTS of money spent on it.
I have another friend down here who is doing his 968 and that will have the turbo on the exhaust side way up front (this is going to need lots of R&D!) so there are lots of us down under continuing to play around with these front engined water pumpers. I think if you absolutely have to have a turbo'd car you should stick to the 951. Even so there are ways to do it and ways not to. Unless you really have a great deal of money to blow on this, you will most likely run into issues.
The only other guy that I would read up on is Markus on Rennlist who did a great job with his Orange 'Jaegermeister' 968. Well worth reading up on.
02-02-2008, 08:43 AM
A couple of sneak peaks at the current build.
02-05-2008, 01:57 AM
Was Markus' car an orange 968? I thought it was a 951 with 968 engine.
Can you clarify this part, I didn't understand what you meant. The motor mount bracket can easily be put on a 968, along with all the other things, I thought the 968 block would have the advantage with the piston squirters. But the 951 body has an advantage with its nice little niche for the intercooler.
Quote:The advantage of the turbo (2.5L) block is the bespoke turbo mount/inlet etc.
Can you clarify this part, I didn't understand what you meant. The motor mount bracket can easily be put on a 968, along with all the other things, I thought the 968 block would have the advantage with the piston squirters. But the 951 body has an advantage with its nice little niche for the intercooler.
02-07-2008, 02:57 AM
Actually you're right on both counts. I had forgotten that Markus's car was a 951. With the hoop spoiler and the 16v engine I often associated it with being a 968.
Also you can bolt on the turbo mount bracket. I was thinking in view of a friend who is turbocharging his 968 and putting the turbo out front and on what you guys know as the passenger side of the motor. Hopefully it will work out well. You can install squirters on the 951 block as I have in the pics.
Also you can bolt on the turbo mount bracket. I was thinking in view of a friend who is turbocharging his 968 and putting the turbo out front and on what you guys know as the passenger side of the motor. Hopefully it will work out well. You can install squirters on the 951 block as I have in the pics.
02-08-2008, 12:57 AM
np dude. I have the utmost respect for people who undertake custom projects like that and just say "FU" to the conventional popular way of doing things. Like Markus or your friend with the turbo on the exhaust side. Going back to the roots a la 931!
02-08-2008, 02:35 PM
Yes Markus got some very good results out of that car. Sad to see it's demise.
Well my friend is sort of being directed by the engineering firm who is doing the work into that placement. There are a few possible issues with it hanging out so far forward. How to hold it there unsupported? You can't support if off the body work, it has to be off the engine so they move at the same time. Lot of heat out there that you need to shield from other components. Access to oil filters? Anyway I wish him 100% success with this build.
My head went on and now we wait for the Standalone stuff to arrive before installing engine and off to dyno next week with any luck. Can't wait!
Well my friend is sort of being directed by the engineering firm who is doing the work into that placement. There are a few possible issues with it hanging out so far forward. How to hold it there unsupported? You can't support if off the body work, it has to be off the engine so they move at the same time. Lot of heat out there that you need to shield from other components. Access to oil filters? Anyway I wish him 100% success with this build.
My head went on and now we wait for the Standalone stuff to arrive before installing engine and off to dyno next week with any luck. Can't wait!
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