[jthomson]

Thinking about this. Just looking for some feedback. 

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[94SilverCab]

I suggest that you do A LOT of reading before you spend your $$$...search is your friend.

 

Just my $.02,

 

Jay

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[jthomson]

Actually, I've researched it off and on for a couple years-just now got some extra cash. Is there something I missed?

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[az968]

Flash was working on licensing his design so it can go back into production. Haven't heard from him on the forum for a while on the status of tnis.

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[banditsc]

There should be some threads here on it. There are not that many of those kits out there and most owners sold the cars. They have belt slip/wear issues, lack any tuning (none at all, just increases fuel pressure and lets the stock chip figure it out), lots of things that are not right or questionable.

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[94SilverCab]

One of our Australian members spent big $$$ on trying to get it to work and ended up throwing it away.

 

JMHO,

 

Jay

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[MCL968]

It all comes down to the chip. You can stick a blower or a turbo on anything, but if it's FI and the mapping is not adjusted accordingly, all you get is more air. Flash really went the distance making the chip match the blower, and making different stages for different needs.

 

If I was going to get a supercharger (and believe me it was something that I seriously considered, and still do) I would only go with a D1R. My car might end up back in CA one of these days, and the D1R unit has CARB approval.

 

My 2 cents...

 

Matt

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[ds968]

I have no knowledge whatsoever of how other superchargers may or may not perform, the various issues and troubles others have experienced with them ( other than just from hearsay )  but if your supercharger is not CARB-certified, as almost all other states are expected to soon become par with California's absurdly strict smog standards ,. without a pre-certified emissions approval, expect a colossal PITA process when getting your car smog tested and pray that it ultimately passes.. chances are it probably won't.  Not an issue if you just track the car, but if you want to drive it on the street,  just be cognizant of all the issues,            

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[Rap]

Is there no other way to get the hp and torque gains you desire?

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[ds968]

Is there no other way to get the hp and torque gains you desire?

Paint the car blue, everyone knows they're the fastest .

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[jthomson]

Here in Iowa, we did away with vehicle inspections decades ago. Don't think they'll be coming back anytime soon, if at all. Regarding tuning, I'm having 928 install and tune the system and as far as I've been able to tell, folks who have em love em. And at less than $5K plus install, I don't know of a cheaper way to bolt on 60-70HP. But I always keep an open mind.

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[MCL968]

There's always this:

 

http://www.motorwerksracing.com/porsche-...-18t-swap/

 

Look at how simple that timing belt is! Someone on the forum needs to put one of these in a 968, I am curious how it would work.

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[ds968]

Here in Iowa, we did away with vehicle inspections decades ago. Don't think they'll be coming back anytime soon, if at all. .

Wow, I'm stunned to hear that, but completely applaud it ! I think this testing nonsense should be done away with in every state but it seemed things were going on the opposite direction. Anyway, it's a bit off topic, in light of that fact , so returning everyone back to the SC functionality discussion...

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[Rap]

Why are  you surprised, they were smart enough to vote for Trump. I think California's emission standards are lax and should be increased. 

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[ds968]

Why are  you surprised, they were smart enough to vote for Trump.

Oh man, Bob --you really wanna throw me that kind of a bait line ..? Ok, here we go : Wow, I had no idea elementary school kids had voting rights there ..and in all the other red states, evidently :-) :-).


Not posting the above to open a political debate dialogue, simply a smartass reply to a smartass remark .. ;-) :-)

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[jthomson]

Ok class... back to the shit. Flash was kind enough to write and tell me what was up with that particular design. So I guess I'll wait around and see if one of his SC's comes up for grabs. This, as always. has been fun.

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[ds968]

Is the 928 Motorsports SC, the same as the SFR SC, or two completely different makers ?


BTW, I have two 968s with the D1R SC, both stage 3 . One car runs like a dream and that one is a lifetime vehicle for me, while the other I had up for sale a while back . Unfortunately I did not get any offers at my asking price and I was not willing to compromise because the car has a greater utility value to me that what I would get in the open market . But I might decide to part it out some day and then would probably sell the SC which runs absolutely perfectly, not to mention that the engine is completely rebuilt top to bottom, and witn reinforced turbo rods..which are a huge plus to handle the SC's power . But with the exception of the SC and the engine itself , that car is cursed ; it has so many annoying gremlins which manifest themselves constantly, and are very difficult to diagnose, that I am actually embarrassed to unload it on anyone else. But who knows, stay tuned to the forum if you don't find another D1R SC elsewhere, and I plan to sell it or the car again, the forum will be the first place where I'll post the notice ..

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[94SilverCab]

928 Motorsports and Speed Force Racing are 2 different companies. Each had their admirers and detractors.

 

I'm trying to be exceedingly fair here,

 

Jay

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[Rap]

Ever think about upgrading your cams?

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[Cloud9...68]

Adding hp to these, or any other normally aspirated engines built since about 1990, without going the forced induction route, is largely an exercise in futility, unless you're talking about a track/racing application.  Cams, headers, lower restriction intakes, chips, etc., produce most of their power in the upper rpm range, often at the sacrifice of the lower end, which is where most people outside the track world do 99% of their driving.  On the 968, a well-designed chip (like one from RS Barn) and the air box mod is about the most you can do that will produce any tangible benefit on a street car.  These are good for about 20 usable hp.  Better than a sharp stick in the eye, but if you want more power that you can actually use, forced induction (or possibly low-dose nitrous, which is a pain in the backside to keep up with, and it isn't cheap) is pretty much the only option.

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