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A very very dark day
#1

My prisitne 93 cab (44,000mi) was just whacked badly by a guy who obviously could not see my perfectly just waxed white car.

Anybody had an experience lately with insurance valuations for our cars?

I e mailed sunset to see availability of parts.

Anyone want to ballpark costs or have suggestions for parts?

front bumper

left side turn signal and socket

left fender

inner wheel well splash guard plastic cover

rubber molding and clips for fender

headlight

might need assembly also

black little bumper guard piece by the driving light and turn signal

rear bumper

rubber molding and clips for the rear bumper

left side rear light assembly

left rear quarter panel

body piece that sits above rear quarter panel and abutts trunk

I am going back to crying now.
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#2

Can't help with prices but wanted to say Sorry for your pain, I hope the obviously sight challenged individual has insurance (that doesn’t screw around).
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#3

"diminished value" is what you want to make sure you file for



All depends on who your insurance company is...
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#4

Ouch ! Very painful indeed...



IN addition to diminished value, forget pricing parts...find out who in your area can restore your car to "museum" quality. You deseve to have your car made PERFECT.



Don't even get me started on why it should be 100 times harder to get and hold a licence



Jay
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I hate stuff like this, so sorry. I wish that I did not have the experience with this that I do...



If you don't know a good local shop with high-end experience (BMW, MB, Porsche), call your local Porsche dealership service department and ask who they use. This is also where the local PCA region can be a big assist. Most of the good shops are in the insurance company's approved vendors listing and so using one should not be a big problem in terms of estimates. However, you might have to be tough. Hopefully he has a good insurance company that is not difficult to deal with. Often this is not a function of the national company, but instead of the local agent and appraiser. Some however, Nationwide for instance, can be real bastards.



You should not have to find parts or anything else. Key is to insure that whoever you use sources OEM parts, not cheap Asian reproductions. This can also be a battle the shop has to fight. If they are a high end shop they are used to this - and usually they are on your side. Sometime, though the only way to get through this is to be an anal-retentive psychotic in terms of your expectations and standards of repair.



A good shop should also be able to help you with diminished value. I have to say though, it is hard on these cars because the book value is relatively low in relation to sales value and relative availability. Some things that can help are the most recent Excellence valuation listing, lots of pictures of your car, and for sale listings from publications such as the Porsche Marketing Letter.



Good luck!
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Perhaps a bit off topic, but two of my local Lexus dealers (both owned by Roger Penske) highly recommend a certain body shop. Wanna guess who I found out owns the body shop? Roger of course.



Tom
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[quote name='daly' post='37953' date='Jul 7 2007, 05:53 AM']My prisitne 93 cab (44,000mi) was just whacked badly by a guy who obviously could not see my perfectly just waxed white car.

Anybody had an experience lately with insurance valuations for our cars?

I e mailed sunset to see availability of parts.

Anyone want to ballpark costs or have suggestions for parts?

front bumper

left side turn signal and socket

left fender

inner wheel well splash guard plastic cover

rubber molding and clips for fender

headlight

might need assembly also

black little bumper guard piece by the driving light and turn signal

rear bumper

rubber molding and clips for the rear bumper

left side rear light assembly

left rear quarter panel

body piece that sits above rear quarter panel and abutts trunk

I am going back to crying now.[/quote]



Two years ago January, a Dodge truck backed into the right rear panel of our 95 Cab, just above and behind the wheel. Repairs were ~$4500, including a new quarter panel from Germany. A year ago last January a Toyota backed into the left rear of the cab and knocked all the paint off the flexible panel, and cracked it, repairs were $2500 including reconditioning the rear flexible panel. Friday while waiting to merge onto the roadway leaving SD Naval Base, I was rear-ended. That's three times in less than 30 months that this car has been hit when it was standing still.

Another Toyota, but this time it looks like all the impact was taken by the left rear rubber bumper post. It left quite a dent in the front of the Toyota, but nothing visible on our car. Older cars would have had a shock absorber or something to replace. Is there anything to replace or check under the rear bumper for damage? Trunk lid and lights etc... still work. Can't even tell the wife, she would insist on getting rid of the car as it seems to be a magnet for accidents.

In my case parts were still available from Germany, although with a several week delay. I didn't lose any light packages, and some very expensive parts like the flexible rear wrap around bumper/panel could be repaired for much less than replacement. From my experience with far less damage I would say that the repair cost for your accident will exceed the value of the car to the adjuster. The second accident involved State Farm, they can be vey hard nosed. They found a scratch on the rear panel underneath, estimated the cost to repair that, deducted that cost from the cost to repair the visible damage caused by their driver; I think I ended up owing them money by their estimate. I had to file the claim with our Allstate policy using our collison deductible in order to get the car repaired. Several months later State Farm evidently settled with Allstate on responsibility and paid/refunded our deductible cost. In addition to ignoring diminished value, some insurance companies will use pre-existing damage to reduce the value of your claim as they did in my case. I got estimates only from shops recommended both by AAA and the local Porsche club; I would recommend a similar approach.



Sorry to hear of your accident, I got off far luckier his time. I'm beginning to think these cars are invisible. Maybe I should name ours the "Gray Ghost"

-sp4149
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